I am joined by esoteric memoirist Stephanie Quick to discuss the shadowy, often hidden-in-plain-sight, secret society E Clampus Vitus AKA the Clampers. This group is often perceived, when it is perceived at all, as a light-hearted, irreverent drinking club. But its effect on the official history of California and the rest of the western United States has been profound- and focused on a specific hidden agenda. Stephanie brings a wealth of information to this topic, and our conversation goes in all sorts of directions.