001 GLORY: Do We Need Creativity In Church? | Bill Johnson, Donta Nelson

I sat down for a special Creative Call conversation with someone who’s deeply shaped my life—Pastor Bill Johnson of Bethel Church. We talked about creativity and glory, and what it really means to walk in both. Pastor Bill shared wisdom on the power of being authentic, staying honest with where you are, while also having the courage to take risks and step outside the box.

We touched on how creativity isn’t just about making things—it’s about carrying glory. And how the most powerful creativity flows from intimacy with God, not performance.

This one felt close to home. Grateful for the opportunity to sit with a leader who’s marked my journey and continues to call out the gold in creatives everywhere.