E109 Joey L.

HEADS UP: This week the interview is someone who stopped an extreme kratom-kava drink habit but is continuing to use kratom as a harm reduction strategy.  While the podcast, based on our expertise, believes 100% abstinence from kratom is necessary for most past problematic kratom users, we feel sharing Joey L.'s story turning his life around after getting up to like 17 tonic shots a day, is worth telling.

 

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