This podcast was recorded on March 1, 2025, the day after the surreal meeting of the U.S. President and the President of Ukraine at the White House. Dr. Shaw has been a proponent of ethics and humanity for a long time... she has written 22 children's nonfiction books on social and emotional behavior... and she cannot digest the embarrassing bullying that took place at the White House on Feb. 28, 2025. Her comments on this podcast episode might be construed as political, but they are simply a visceral reaction by an educator who fought bullying and other bad behavior for her entire long career.