Attorney Mark Brewer urges critics to cut the independent redistricting commission some slack. Former Speaker Jase Bolger talks about Betsy DeVos and how prolonged leadership races can be good for a caucus (23:10). Rep. Abraham Aiyash (D-Hamtramck) talks about his leadership bid, fundraising and finding "fecal matter" in more flooded Southeast Michigan basements (42:58).
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