Poet Ben Aleshire joins us this week to talk about his recent travels, selling poetry on the street, and troubadours in this extra-long episode. We hit on all kinds of odd subjects, George Whitman's shenanigans at Shakespeare and Company, whether Johnny Depp might have stolen a poetry broadside from City Lights, the fecundity of letterpress printing in Germany, fake news, Ezra Pound's Fascism and Antisemitism, improvisation vs. revision in poetry, John Ashbery, how poetry is like free jazz, and why you should never submit poetry to the New Yorker.