Surviving Hopelessness: Brian Wardale and Deborah Charman on Suicide, EMDR, and the Truth About Masculine Pain
Mind Over Masculinity

Surviving Hopelessness: Brian Wardale and Deborah Charman on Suicide, EMDR, and the Truth About Masculine Pain

2025-08-09
In this powerful episode of Mind Over Masculinity, host Avik Chakraborty is joined by Deborah Charman and Brian Wardale, co-founders of Survivors of Hopelessness, for a raw and deeply moving conversation about male suicide, trauma healing, and emotional resilience. Brian shares his journey as a suicide attempt survivor, while Deborah opens up about her lifelong struggle with mental health and how EMDR therapy helped her find lasting healing. Together, they shed light on the silent pain many men carry and what it truly means to be seen—and saved—by vulnerability. This conversation is a must-listen for any...
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