I can count that on my fingers

WARNING: There is a disconcerting shriek some people may find distracting in the first 2-3 minutes of the podcast. Do not be startled. Do not drive off the road if listening to this while operating a vehicle. With that out of the way, Roma and Damen chat about what makes Damen tick when it comes to list building just so our friend Justin has something to listen to while he is driving tomorrow.