Ep 33: Navigating AI’s Geopolitical Shifts with Jisoo Kim

2025-04-14

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AI is moving at breakneck speed, and nowhere is that more evident than on the global stage. The geopolitical landscape is shifting, alliances are forming, and nations are racing to lead in this transformative era. But what does it mean for Australia? And how can businesses navigate both the risks and the opportunities? In this episode, I sit down with Jisoo Kim, Director and Co-Founder of Clear AI, to explore the human side of AI adoption, the mindset shifts organisations need to embrace, and the challenges of navigating AI’s rapid development. With a background in national s...

In this episode, I sit down with Jisoo Kim, Director and Co-Founder of Clear AI, to explore the human side of AI adoption, the mindset shifts organisations need to embrace, and the challenges of navigating AI’s rapid development. With a background in national security, international relations, and even a stint as a digital media adviser to former Prime Minister Scott Morrison, Jisoo brings a fascinating perspective on AI’s role in both business and global affairs.

From AI safety to the complex dynamics between the US, China, and Australia, this conversation is both timely and thought-provoking. We also dive into how organisations can overcome fear, build AI literacy, and lead with curiosity in this ever-changing landscape.

Note: AI evolves rapidly, and this discussion was accurate at the time of recording.

Key Highlights:

Jisoo’s Journey from National Security to AI Entrepreneurship
Jisoo shares her fascinating career path, starting from her early interest in politics and international relations, shaped by her family's experience with the Korean War. From working as a digital media adviser to former Prime Minister Scott Morrison to serving as a policy adviser at the Department of Defence, Jisoo brings a wealth of experience to her AI advisory work. She explains how her background in national security informs her perspective on AI’s risks and opportunities.
The Human Side of AI Adoption
While AI is often seen as a purely technical challenge, Jisoo emphasises that successful adoption is as much about mindset and culture as it is about technology. She discusses why curiosity, psychological safety, and executive leadership are key to overcoming fear and uncertainty. Jisoo also shares stories of organisations that have empowered employees to experiment with AI and how this approach leads to greater innovation.
The Geopolitical AI Landscape
The competition between the US and China in AI development has far-reaching implications. Jisoo provides a clear breakdown of the ongoing semiconductor battle, the significance of the US Chips Act, and how Australia is positioned in this global race. She also highlights the importance of responsible AI development and the need for international cooperation — even as geopolitical tensions rise.
AI Safety and Responsible Regulation
From misinformation to surveillance concerns, Jisoo dives into the complex challenges of AI safety. She discusses why regulation often lags behind the pace of technological change and why businesses can’t afford to wait for governments to set all the rules. Instead, she advocates for proactive corporate responsibility, clear internal policies, and cross-sector collaboration.
Addressing AI Fear and Misinformation
Fear often prevents organisations from fully embracing AI, whether it's concerns over job loss or uncertainty about data security. Jisoo shares practical advice on how companies can approach AI adoption thoughtfully — starting small, experimenting with use cases, and ensuring employees are part of the journey. She explains why transparency and communication from leadership are critical to reducing fear and building trust.
AI in Australia and Its Role on the Global Stage
Jisoo highlights Australia’s unique position as a middle power with strong alliances. She explores how Australia can not only adopt AI responsibly but also support neighbouring countries through knowledge sharing and capacity building. She stresses the importance of ensuring AI benefits are distributed equitably, particularly in developing regions.
Choosing and Using AI Tools Wisely
In a landscape filled with rapidly evolving AI tools, Jisoo and Kate discuss their experiences using platforms like ChatGPT, Notebook LM, and Copilot. Jisoo shares her thoughts on how organisations can navigate the overwhelming number of options by focusing on practical, impactful use cases rather than chasing the latest shiny tool.
The Future of AI in Business and Society
Looking ahead, Jisoo predicts how AI will continue to shape industries, from education and healthcare to defence and creative fields. She also shares her hopes for more collaboration, responsible innovation, and global cooperation in AI development.

This episode is packed with valuable insights for business leaders, policymakers, and anyone curious about the intersection of AI, security, and global politics.

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