People and security: Part 3: security culture expert Kai Roer

Security training and security awareness only goes so far. Instead of annual tick box exercises, organisations should aim for a permanent shift in attitudes to security, argues our guest for this episode. They need to create a security culture.

Kai Roer is an author and security expert, and founder of security culture advisory firm CLT.re, now part of KnowBe4. He talks to host Stephen Pritchard about how we can make that shift.