023 - The hosts reflect on podcast episode 214 - “Vs, The War of All Against All: Abortion.” Steven dives into adversarial relationships in his personal life, whether it be within his family or amongst his friends and acquaintances. Seph takes a closer look at Travis’ claim regarding progressives, bodily autonomy, and the SCOTUS Dobbs decision. Travis shares a parable as an allegory for current progressive politics.