Can We Justify the Suffering Entailed by Our Own Existence? with Po the Person

Po brought me a famous chapter from the Brother's Karamazov 

“Is there in the whole world a being who would have the right to forgive and could forgive? I don't want harmony. From love for humanity I don't want it. I would rather be left with the unavenged suffering. I would rather remain with my unavenged suffering and unsatisfied indignation, even if I were wrong. Besides, too high a price is asked for harmony; it's beyond our means to pay so much to enter on it. And so I hasten to give back my entrance ticket, and if I am an honest man I am bound to give it back as soon as possible. And that I am doing. It's not God that I don't accept, Alyosha, only I most respectfully return him the ticket.”

Does the existence of suffering implicate the creator in evil? 

The Brother's Karamazov https://amzn.to/37NbNuo
The Alchemy of Air https://amzn.to/3oB9dOP

Po's channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCanlsRNBJGgtGaRN7tzJsAQ

Talk Notes
Woman in ABBA wrote a song when she was 8 months pregnant

Anti-natalists, a philosophy of trying to prevent suffering by encouraging people to not have children

Is this a moral thing to do? Bringing a human being into the world knowing they will suffer

Theological question rather than a scientific one. 

Can't satisfy it rationally

Brothers Karamazov 

The problem of suffering is addressed by justification. 

Why should I want to be with such a God? He wants to return his ticket and deny God's benevolence. He could not justify this creation. All of the benevolence of the world could not justify the universe. 

Stoicism: saving from suffering

Chef: films without conflict

What is the opposite of suffering? 

Satisfaction

Justification of much abortion is implicit anti-natalism

 

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