Pings to Presence | Ché Ugwuala, Global Lead, Android Channel Partner Marketing at Google

When Ché’s kids called out the calendar for stealing their dad, he hit pause and rewrote the script—one that puts family, mental health, and meaningful work on the same page. In this episode, Jolie and Ché riff on work‑life boundaries, AI as a creativity amplifier (not a crutch), and how inpatient care can be a springboard, not a setback. If your to‑do list is louder than your loved ones, this convo will realign your priorities.

Key Takeaways
• Vulnerability attracts connection—share the messy middle, not just the highlight reel
• Quality time > quantity hustle: your presence is your superpower
• AI should extend human creativity, not replace it
• Not every ping is a fire drill
• Celebrate small wins to build momentum (and protect mental health)
Timestamps
00:00 – Personal connections & why stories stick
05:59 – Vulnerability at work: the trust accelerator
11:50 – Kids, calendars & the wake‑up call on balance
18:04 – Perspective check: most tasks aren’t ER‑level
23:59 – AI as a time‑saver and creativity spark
28:23 – Post‑break boundaries: making space to breathe
32:15 – Depression, inpatient care & the climb back up
37:27 – Community support and celebrating every inch forward
45:22 – Turning stress into growth habits
Links
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