In this episode, Dan and Lauren are joined by Dr. Melissa Rocco, Senior Lecturer of Higher Education and Student Affairs Administration in the College of Education and Social Services at the University of Vermont. They delve into Rocco's transition from student affairs to a leadership faculty member, discussing the challenges and unique insights she gained from her diverse roles in consulting, academia, and professional associations. The episode highlights Rocco's contributions to leadership communities through her work with ILEC, ACPA, and NCLP, as well as the 2024 Leadership Educators Academy and Leadership Educators Institute.