Ep. 22. JOY and JOEL- Little Tiny Hands and Enneagram Animals.

Joy and Joel talk presence, families, animals, artworks and so much more.

Music by Taylor Leonhardt except for the poem by Joel McKerrow with music by Brett Anthony Shaw.

Check out Joels projects talked about in this episode: HUMAN: An Exploration of the Inner Life (launches March 19th) at www.joelmckerrow.com

Register NOW for Joy Prouty's THE PRESENT FAMILY course at www.thepresentfamily.com