Terminus Interview - Heidens Hart Records / Sagenland

2021-03-05

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After dedicating 2020 almost entirely to reissues, Dutch black metal cornerstone Heidens Hart is back with two major new releases -- Sagenland's Oale Groond (see T35) and Kjeld's Ôfstân (out today, March 5 - review forthcoming). Since The Black Metal Guy spends a lot of time geeking out about the Dutch scene, and this label in particular, he figured he'd take the opportunity to speak with founder and sole operator Arjan (also 1/2 of Sagenland). Over the course of the conversation, Arjan touches on many key a...

After dedicating 2020 almost entirely to reissues, Dutch black metal cornerstone Heidens Hart is back with two major new releases -- Sagenland's Oale Groond (see T35) and Kjeld's Ôfstân (out today, March 5 - review forthcoming). Since The Black Metal Guy spends a lot of time geeking out about the Dutch scene, and this label in particular, he figured he'd take the opportunity to speak with founder and sole operator Arjan (also 1/2 of Sagenland).

Over the course of the conversation, Arjan touches on many key aspects of his aesthetic, from folk-inspired minimalism and ineffable yearning, to the individual, imaginative transformation of canonical sounds. One gets the sense of a man who simply happens to live in the present -- a man for whom trends are as far away as the nearest city, and the modern world is, at most, an inconvenience.

00:00 - Introduction

04:05 - "It's more rewarding to write a flowing song" - Folkish melody vs. Norsecore / minimalism and drone / songwriting for Sagenland

19:26 - "It can be 50 years ago or 5000 years ago" - melancholy and nostalgia / barrows and dolmens

24:54 - One country, two sounds - rural, regional Dutch BM vs. the big city metal scene

34:58 - "Independent since the beginning" - roots of Heidens Hart and the Dutch scene in the late 90s

44:50 - "Maniacal and crazy" - an introduction to Blackdeath, the Satanic Russian black sheep of the HH roster

50:58 - Interlude - Blackdeath, “Hass aus dem Himmel” fr. Phantasmhassmagorie (HH2019). Followed by more on Blackdeath and alternate histories of black metal.

01:04:20 - "Without being a ______ clone" - introduction to the German Medieval BM of Pest, the Anglo-Saxon neofolk of Wolcensmen, and other recent HH releases. This section gives a good sense of Arjan's overall taste in music.

01:23:06 - "It sounds.... bothered." - history of WROK, Dutch grand masters of gorked basement goblin BM.

01:31:46 - Outro - Wojnar - end of “Part one - Część pierwsza eposu,” fr. Kiedy duch wojny nade mną powstanie (HH reissue, 2019; Slava Productions, 1999)

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