Episode 047 - Coming Out of the Church Closet

Shawn sits down with one of his very best friends, who is just two days older than him, as they talk about what church looks like to a pastor who now sits in the pew. For the last couple years, Jarod Thomas has been working for the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists and has come to some surprirsing and interesting insights as he has been an observer in the crowd. How does Jarod feel about church? And what might it look like in the future? Check out this thought-provoking episode!

To read the article Shawn references about why church is so "blah," even for many pastors, click here. 

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