Ep 56 - How Pete O’Hara channels his rejection from Hollywood to do what he is passionate about the most - adventure photography & videography

Hey Wicked Hunters,

Welcome back to The Art of Photography Podcast, Today I want to welcome Peter O'Hara.

Pete considers himself “A guy trying to live out adventures I created in my head as a child while flipping through National Geographic Magazines.”

The majority of Pete’s early creative career was spent working in the Canadian television industry, providing the fortunate opportunity at a young age to travel the world while developing my skills as a cinematographer, editor, and photographer.

With these skills, he began working on branded projects with agencies and brands such as Ikea, Buick and Lexus before beginning to focus my expertise on television development collaborating with companies such as Disney, HGTV, Discovery Channel and The Property Brothers.

Pete says,” While these projects allowed for personal and professional growth, after 10 years in the industry, I was ready to take on a new challenge.

Though I always loved my time spent abroad, it wasn't until spending two months travelling to New Zealand that I discovered my love and passion for outdoor adventure photography and filmmaking.

Through this realisation, the course of my career naturally shifted, and I began to invest more time learning how to improve my skills and the art of adventure storytelling.

I am a professional drone operator with advanced drone certification through Transport Canada and aim to enhance these stories by taking to the skies. My goal since beginning this creative venture is to share my passion for exploration and create content that will inspire others to spend more time outdoors and in nature as well as give back along the way.”

Highlights over the past few years are working with Travel Yukon, Tourism Vancouver Island, and Campbell River Whale Watching, JAR of Hope Foundation raising awareness for Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy.

• Everest Vlog Link - https://youtu.be/UXZvlnBkXMU
• Website - https://www.silverfernproductions.ca
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Pete O'Hara  0:00  
I was like eight months trying to get all the contracts, right with everything. So many people were involved, right? There was just it was like, endless. There's production companies there is Disney there is like the talent there was us. And so, you know, I was putting a lot of my time and energy into this, like over a year. And you know, I was editing it on my own time putting the sizzle together, like weeks and weeks and weeks and months. And then we flew back to LA to put it together to finish it at a studio. And it was just like, I remember, we finished it, and I was just like, flew back home and I was just totally burnt out. And then like they called About a month later and said, Yeah, we're not gonna pick this up. So there's just like, it's spent all this money spent like two years of my life trying to put this thing together and then just like they're just like, in a second. They're like, ya know?

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  0:53  
Hey, weekend is Welcome back to The Art of Photography podcast, where we share artists journey and adventure behind their photographer, journey. And today, we have someone from the Canadian Rockies, someone who, you know, I've been acquainted with a long, long time, and I've been following his not only amazing photos, and we have a lot of photographers here, but he's also an incredible videographer. And we'll talk about all of that in this podcast. But before we get there, let's welcome Pete. Hey, P. Welcome to the podcast. I'm very excited to have you here

Pete O'Hara  1:32  
is Dan, thanks for having me really excited to be here and have a great conversation with you. Yeah, man,

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  1:37  
like, you know, like, I think you're only the second photographer slash videographer and I've ever had here. So I'd really love to hear a little bit more about that. But before we can get into, you know, all this project that you did, you know, in a pile and you know, all of your adventure in the Canadian Rockies, exploring ice skates and all these incredible, incredible places that many people think that it was just a dream. I mean, I used to think those places are a place of a dream that I'm never going to get to. So before we get to all that, give us a little bit of introduction of who you are, and what got you into photography. Yeah,

Pete O'Hara  2:22  
you know, that's a great place to start, because, well, my name is Pete. And I started out not in these amazing places in the Rockies, I started out actually in Toronto, working in the television and commercial industry for a long, long time, probably about 1015 years. And so that's kind of where I jumped into photography, I was probably like learning cinematography, and sort of shaping my career to become a director of photography more than I was a photographer. And you know, so that was kind of that was kind of the direction I was heading in. And when I was coming up through the industry, the people that I was assisting, or shadowing the directors of photography's the DPS or the cinematographers, you know, the the advice that they gave me is like, just to become a better photographer, you should pick up a photography camera and learn photography, because it'll help you become, you know, to help you with composing images to help you with lighting and all that kind of stuff. And so, you know, I took that advice, and I did that, and it was just, you know, no pun intended, it clicked fast. And it was quickly became more, more more than just like a learning tool to become a better cinematographer. It was like, became, quite quickly a passion and something that, you know, I, I love just as much as cinematography. And so that's kind of how it happened was working in the TV industry.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  3:48  
edisi church thing, wow, I didn't know that. Say, this is why I love this podcast, I just get to learn new things about artists and their journey. So what drive you to become to get into the TV industry? Is that something was there a bit of motivation from yourself that you want to do that or it's pretty much kind of the path that life leaves you there.

Pete O'Hara  4:13  
You know, I got lucky in high school because, you know, like, it got to about grade 11 grade 12 and we were kind of everyone had to start thinking about okay, what kind of college programmes University programmes I want to go after and I got lucky early on and I think I was in grade 11 I was just working in I think it was communications class and they introduced us to like video editing and shooting and all that kind of stuff and like I'll never forget I still I love this like when you we went out and it was like you know we we didn't know what we're doing it was probably like what Yeah, it's like really bad stuff. But just filming a scene out in the field and then coming back to the computer to edit it and like what happens when you take this piece and match it with this piece? The first time I edited two clips together and they sort of worked. It was just that was it. You know what I mean? I was just like, I love this. And it was just like there's an addiction to it, right? It's like that one thing where when you edit this piece in this piece, and now it's like, that opens up a whole world of, you know, documentary filmmaking, storytelling. And I was I was just completely hooked. So I got lucky. And I had that right from high school. And then, you know, it took a while to think, like, do I want to shape this into a career because I was so young. And I didn't really know what I wanted to do. I thought maybe I knew I wanted to adventure too. And so I was thought about maybe joining the Canadian Army, I thought about becoming a pilot. So I wanted to join the army to become a pilot. But I realised I didn't really, I was also getting into trouble a lot. So I don't think the army might have been a great place for me, because I probably wasn't good with authority. And so I guess that was the quote unquote, artist in me. And so I started to look at programmes, and I was like, Oh, you can do you can do this as a career. You can do TV school, you can do film school. And that stuff is a career. And so I kind of chose that path. And I went away to college for it. And, you know, college was really typical of like, everyone in college wanted to be a sort of indie filmmaker. And I also caught that bug as well. And so for a long, long time, I wanted to be like a film director. But I never really like, did that I was just doing like, videography, cinematography, that kind of stuff. Like, I never really got into the directing, I was just dreaming about it. And so I went down that, but I went down that dream for a long time, you know, I was like that, you know, like that typical film school like guy that wanted to be a director, and I just, like, ate all the ate all that up, I bought, like 1000s of DVDs. You know, like, I watched movies from, like, the 1920s, all the way up to like modern day cinema, just learning about cinema. And then, you know, through that, once I graduated, college, you had to do an internship. And so I had no idea where to go. And like, at this point, in my life, I wasn't being super intentional about anything, I was just kind of like, there was an opportunity to work in reality TV after college, so I took it. And so I ended up working in reality TV in Toronto for a long, long time. And just kind of like, you know, learning the business, learning the ropes. And it was, it was really good in that sense, in terms of just being exposed to that world, and many different opportunities, and just learning how it all works, but it wasn't, I was never really intentional about the direction I was going, I was just in this massive world of like TV and commercial, and not really shaping my passion into anything. And that's kind of where I'm, you know, I was slowly building myself up to be like a cinematographer. And, and I like happened to stumble into photography, right, like, shadowing. cinematographers, and them telling me, you know, pick up a camera and just pick up a photography camera to learn composition, right. And so I was working on this one show, and I did that, and I started to learn, I started really like it. And then I went travelling for two months to New Zealand and Australia. And it was just photography the whole time, adventure photography, travel photography, and, you know, I think most photographers will have that moment where, for me, it was like doing a long exposure at night, and just seeing what that image produces. On the back of the camera. It's like magic, right? Like, you're opening up your shutter for 30 seconds, and you're opening up light from what you can't see, but all of a sudden, you get this massive exposure on the back of your, in the back of your lens, right. And I was just, I was just in love with that I just, I love the colours, the blues of the sky, of course, being in New Zealand and surrounded by beautiful mountains. And so yeah, that's just kind of that's, that's sort of that started to shape. I started at that point, I think to shape my career more into photography, not immediately, but I started to like put these things together. Like I really liked photography, and I really liked the outdoors and it took a few years. And eventually like after, after a bit of time, I started to become more intentional about what after a lot of failure, I should say, lots of failure and like trying things and things not working out. I was like you know what, I really need to give this this adventure photography and filmmaking like I can bring both both things together and try and make something of it and I started to become really intentional with what I wanted to do. And so I started to actively make choices around that and so that's kind of what brought me to the Rockies in a nutshell.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  9:36  
Wow, what a journey and you know, I remember when I first took my long exposure like I don't remember what it is but I remember when I first took it and then you you open it you close the aperture quite small so you get those star bears and just like this is like looking for street lights and just take this really low exposure. So the idea of the starburst and that was like that was it?

Pete O'Hara  10:02  
I know right at some of that about that. It's just like you're right. Like with cars. I remember like I was in New Zealand and Wellington. I just remember like, I remember photographing the city at night from above the hill. And I was just like, wow, look at this image. And then a car like went by my frame. I was like, oh, no, ruin the shot. But then. And then when the after 20 seconds when the image revealed, it's like you have this light streak. I was like, oh my god, it's so cool. You look terrible now, right? But at the time, I was like, just when you're experimenting, and you have that you're like a kid again, right? And you just see all this like, it's like painting almost, you know, painting with light.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  10:35  
Yeah, I mean, like, we never know, it's possible, right? Until we play around with camera before we never see that not with our eyes. So that's, that's really funny, because I can totally relate with that. And, you know, yeah, I was gonna say, like, you were really lucky to be able to get a lot of that direction early on, and you fell in love, you know, I have that click. And it's, it's crazy, isn't it, it's crazy how the simplest thing in life shape the rest of your life. And the rest just become, it doesn't really matter anymore. And I love that I love hearing that. And, like, for many people, that's not the case, like for me, took me 30 years to figure out that this is what I want to do that, you know, finally felt like I'm doing what I've been wanting to do. But you mentioned something very important. And you say, you know, in order to get to where you need to be, and where you are. You've gone through not only once or twice, but a lot of failures and trying things. And so just give us a little bit of a picture of what this those failures are like and how, how does that push you forward? How do you take those failure and make and take that as a fuel to go forward? Instead of, you know, a fuel that burn you down and basically crash and burn? You know,

Pete O'Hara  12:05  
that's a fantastic question. Because I think like, like, there's so many quotes on failure, right? Like, I can't remember who it was, but it was like, you know, failures, where you kind of learn everything, and success almost teaches you nothing, right? So I think, and I can I can go into a few stories and in a moment, but I think like it's so true, like failure is basically just data, giving you data of what information that you need to know that you didn't know, right. And so that's, I think the best way to look at it, you know, because it's, especially in our line of work, like, there's going to be like failures, just inevitable, it's just part of it, right. And whether it's like on a big scale, or a little scale, like, you go like, just on a little scale, we'll go out to the back country to try and get a shot and we'll get a shot or we'll go out to you know, here in the Rockies, as you're familiar with the ice fields and the roads closed. And it's like, so you just have to expect that all the time.

Unknown Speaker  13:05  
For me,

Pete O'Hara  13:07  
working in the television industry. You know, there's definitely a lot of projects that I attempted to do that failed. Ultimately, there's definitely a lot of ideas for TV shows that I would pitch you know, so you deal with rejection on a regular level. And with photography now, too, like you're, you're sending out pitches, you're sending out emails, and you're, you're not hearing back or they're saying you know, we're not interested, etc. So you just just become, I think, for me, it's just about becoming used to that, oh, that's just part of the business. It's just you just have to become comfortable with it. One of the biggest failures, I probably had, I won't even consider it a failure now, but it was more of a learning experience was I was when I was working in the television industry. You know, I was starting to become more intentional. I wanted to I was very ambitious, right? I was like, I want to make TV shows, I want to be director all this stuff. And so like I started a company with a friend became business partners. And we got this idea for the show. And everyone's like, it was more like finding the talent and, and we had this great talent for a TV show. And it was new, and it was exciting. And you know, like Disney was like, We pitched it to a bunch of people because we have some connections and Disney's like, Hey, this looks great. So I flew to LA I think two or three times the first time I flew there to pitch it around and I had this we it was like it was wild. I mean, we were driving all over LA you know, going to these like Hollywood buildings and pitching this TV show and we pitched it to Disney and it was this crazy meeting was like lady was she was she's still there. She's really big person in Hollywood. And she just was like, she listened to her pitch for about two to three minutes. And then she just went off the rails being like kind of unusual for 45 minutes and we're like, whoa, what's going on? Right? Tried to kind of reel the meeting back into like, what what we're actually trying to pitch and she just would take it and go another direction. And then it was just as weird something was having an understand. But what I didn't know until after she actually really liked the show and wanted to pick it up. And so they A week later, they picked it up and they said, we want to produce, like sort of a pilot episode, like a mini pilot episode, they call it a super sizzler, which is like a mini pilot. And so we're like, great, this is it, we're gonna, we're gonna and we're gonna make it. And so, you know, I've been all over Europe filming and doing all this stuff. So we got all this great footage for it. And then, you know, spent a lot of spent like, maybe, I don't know, it was like eight months trying to get all the contracts, right with everything. So many people were involved, right, there was just it was like, endless. There's production companies, there is Disney, there is like the talent there was us. And so, you know, I was putting a lot of my time and energy into this, like over a year. And you know, I was editing it on my own time putting the sizzle together, like weeks and weeks and weeks and months. And then we flew back to LA to put it together to finish at a studio. And it was just like, I remember, we finished it. And I was just like, flew back home. And I was just totally burnt out. And then like they called About a month later and said, Yeah, we're not gonna pick this up. So just like it's spent all this money spent, like two years of my life trying to put this thing together, and then it just like, they're just like, any second, they're like, yeah, no, you know, and that's the way it goes. But I was pretty like devastated for a while, you know, I was doing some like, it was like, man, like, that was a huge blow. Like, I didn't really tell anyone for a while, like I didn't tell like my family for a couple months. Like I didn't tell anybody only like my business partner knew. And so I think at that point, I was just I remember listening to a podcast too, and somebody else was talking about failure. And you know, you're gonna hit rock bottom, and you need to build yourself back up. And I remember thinking is like, no, that's not gonna happen to me, this is good. The show we're gonna make it right. So. But of course, now it's like, you know, that happened. And you have to kind of pull yourself out of it, you can give yourself time to like, sort of mourn it and mourn the loss. But for me, it was great, because I started to really then focus and become more intent on Adventure photography and adventure filmmaking, right. And I remember, Alex drol had a bunch of courses out on an adventure photography, it's when just before the course craze kind of like took off to what it is now. And I just remember, I picked up one of his courses, and I was like, This is awesome. Like, I love this. And, you know, I applied some of those techniques. And I remember, I was still in Toronto, but I came out west to visit my sister here, here in the Canadian West, in the Rockies. And I was like, I'm gonna come out here and like, take some photographs of the Rockies do some adventure stuff, and like, kind of put these ideas into practice. And then I like, fell off my bike and broke my collarbone. And, but that would that really gave me a lot of time to just stop and like, reflect, you know what I mean? And like, the Disney thing just failed, and I just broke my collarbone. So it wasn't having a great year. But you know, I just, I just kind of, and so I had to take two months off to heal my shoulder. So I just stayed out in the west here for two months. And it was just like, that was that was kind of it for me as I need to move out West because I was you know, going going on hikes, taking pictures. And so this sort of, I guess, event of failure, you could say that started with the, you know, the show not getting picked up with Disney kind of transpired into like, Okay, well, now I can really focus my energy into shaping my intentions into going after adventure photography and adventure filmmaking, landscape photography, just like becoming more intentional with my time, right? And so that's a good, that's a good, I think, like, you know, I know, it's hard when you fail. Like, in that moment, if someone was telling me like, Hey, you can really use this it'd be it's, it's a really hard thing to hear. But I think like, I mean, you have to listen to it. At some point, you have to drag yourself out of those, those horrible moments and like, rebuild yourself. And I think those are great, actual opportunities to build, you know, and learn.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  19:00  
You know, that's, that's really, really cool story. I love hearing that. I know, at that time, it's probably the worst time of your life, right. But as you can see, today, the failures is really what shape our success, right without those failure, like you say you wouldn't have moved to Canadian Rockies, you wouldn't have had that time to kind of just reflect and stay home and kind of pull yourself out of it. Now, one thing that I'm really interested in, I think a lot of people will get a lot of benefit out of this is that when you hit that rock bottom, or you know, at the place where it's not really a nice place to be and like you say, sometimes people are telling us like, Oh, this is learning experience, just be positive and you feel like, well, you know, try to be positive when you're here right? See how you go right.

Speaker 3  19:50  
So you know that really you just got like, okay, it's easy for you to say,

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  19:55  
but what are some of the things that make a difference? words that make you you know what? It is a learning experience or you know what, this is how I'm going to rebuild, you know, my future based on this foundation? What are those different either events or advice or anything that have clicked in your head that make you that convinced you and help you pull yourself out of this hole very much and start going back on your road towards the dreams that you always been dreaming on? Yeah,

Pete O'Hara  20:33  
that's a great question. I mean, it's really hard. Like we mentioned it in that moment to like, sort of emotionally pull yourself out of that moment. But you know, like, there's a, I think I heard Tom Tom Hanks saying interview the other days, like this too shall pass, you know, you're feeling low. This too shall pass you feeling on an incredible high, you know, this too shall pass. So I always try to remind myself like, This too shall pass. And then you know, it doesn't happen overnight. But just know that I try to always remind myself that everything is sort of figure out double, if that's even a word. You know what I mean? Like, there's, there's always something that you can do to improve like, the next day, like so you're in a low moment, okay, what can I do? Okay, tomorrow, I'm going to learn something new, you know what I mean, to get me out of this moment. So I'm, whether it be reading, like, I like reading business books, I like reading personal development books. And so there's always going to be, you know, the vantage of living now, in this time, there's so much information about there, there's so many books out there to help you that there's almost like no excuse, you know what I mean, if you're just sitting at home doing nothing, like there's, there's action that you can take to pull yourself out of those moments. And so I always remind myself that if I need to take a day off to be to feel crappy, and mourn whatever just happened, then I'll do that. But then, you know, the, then it's like, there's, there's baby steps of pulling yourself out of it. And you know, if you start something like now, just imagine, and you keep working on that every day, just imagine like, where you're going to be it's like those gradual steps, like kind of open up into something much larger many years down the road. Right. And so, and that's kind of what happened for me now. I'm like, you know, that was a that was like, a low moment for me get not having the show. get greenlit. But I mean, now I'm thinking like, well, what if the show did get greenlit, I wouldn't be here in the Rockies? You know what I mean? So you never know. Like, you're never gonna know. So it's just everything is figured out double. And, you know, it's just one step at a time and, like, you can make it you know, you can make it work.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  22:30  
That is great advice. You know, like, figure out double, I think that that is such a difficult word to say. I think we say it enough, we can make it to, you know, the Webster Dictionary,

Pete O'Hara  22:43  
figure. Yeah. I mean, even now, with my business, I mean, it's not, it's great. You know, we live in the Rockies now. And there's still, you know, there's still issues to deal with every day, there's still, you know, new clients to get or there's still like, you know, fostering or maintaining old relationships, there's things that don't go right. And so, you know, you still, you still have to either sell to figure things out, you still have to try new things, you still have to, you know, we're working in an industry that's constantly changing. And so, marketing is changing all the time. And so we're constantly learning, we're constantly evolving, and so just getting used to things not working out, and then you know, celebrating the things that do

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  23:23  
know, 100% I love what you say there, how, you know, it doesn't matter what you do in whether it's your business or life, that's, that's the journey, it's never going to always be good, right? Like Tom Hanks, say, like, if it's good or bad, it will pass and you just have to take it one step at a time. And I think one of the most profound thing that I get out of that is how you can how you tell yourself that even at the worst time there is you have a choice. And I think a lot of people don't understand or don't realise that, right? They feel like, this is my entire life. And it's but you have a choice, you have the choice to stay in it, or you have a choice to get out of it. And that's exactly what you did. Right? And it takes you through the whole series of events, it takes you to where you are right now. And of course, we might never know where it can go in the future. But, you know, it sounds like that's something that you're, it's a life that you you love and you know, passionate about. So I think you did really amazing, you know how to deal with that. And that's such an inspiration. Now, I want to bring you back to your, your creative, you know, videography and photography now. It's always interesting. I mean, I started with photography, and I know how videography can be addicted as well, just like not Apple, especially when you're able to put this cohesive vision into like 30 minutes. Sorry, 33 And it's or one minute video or whatever it is, and you look back of it and just be like, Wow, that is incredible. Right? So, if you what are your story in videography, but you wanted to move to photography? So what are the motivation for you to? To explore into the photography?

Unknown Speaker  25:22  
Yeah, yeah, it's

Pete O'Hara  25:22  
a good question. I mean, I coming back to like the TV thing it was like, like I said, they told me to like practice photography. And so I did that. But I think what I realised in that as was like, wow, you can really, you can really create it pot one powerful image to tell a whole story versus like videography, is creating many images to tell a story. Photography is just one image to tell a story or if you can, like do a series of images, but just that aspect of like crafting a simple single image, I thought it was very powerful, and just just how I felt from the images and other people's images, you know, like watching watching other people's work, I think that's probably been in me since I was a child as well. Like, I remember flipping through, you know, the library at school, like National Geographic magazines, you know, like Time Magazine, Maclean's magazine here in Canada, like, we always subscribe to those. So I remember flipping through and seeing like, these images is powerful images that are just burning into your subconscious, right, like, and so I was always fascinated by that. And so I just feel like naturally for me, the videography and photography kind of went hand in hand in a way. And so again, it took me a while to figure out to shape what I really wanted my photography to be more like adventure landscape, like because I was working in TV, and I would get hired to do like, oh, Pete's like posting photography to his Instagram or Facebook, let's hire him to do the behind the scenes photos of like the show we're working on, right. And so I was like, oh, cool, like another avenue, I can make money in, right. And so then I was doing portraits, and I was doing weddings. And I was doing like, all this kind of different stuff. And then, again, coming back to that, like niching down or becoming more intentional of like, what speaks to you the most is like, I kind of started to shape that once I started travelling, the world I was working on it was funny, because I was I was working on a travel show, as a director of photography. So it was getting to that level, we were doing like travel Food Show and a travel travel show. And so I was doing the cinematography, but then you know, I'd have time to do the photography as well. And so it's just like, bang one after the other, right, like, and so I was like, I really liked doing this, I want to make this work for my career. And so it's slowly and I used to that was from Toronto, before I moved out west here. And as I mentioned, my sister lives out west here as well. And her and her husband are really big into adventures. And so when I would come to visit them all the time, you know, we've got backcountry skiing, we do all this kind of fun adventure stuff. And so that was starting to click, and I was taking pictures out there. So all of a sudden, this like adventure and the photography, they started to come and mash together a little bit more as like, oh, you can do this as a career, you know. And so that kind of, and then there's like, that's kind of exploded into this huge creative, as you know, as well, because you're in the same sort of realm as me where it's like, Astro photography, you know, climbing up mountains in the night to just capture the night sky and the mountains and all that kind of stuff. It's endless, right? So it's like, in my opinion, it's like a lifetime of work ahead of me.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  28:30  
Yeah, that's, that's interesting how you say that, like a lifetime? alorica that's really cool. I like that. I like how you think about that. And, you know, there's this, I went out, hanging out with a couple of friends here in, in Bali, and we had this villa to ourselves, and we it's like more like a networking. So we meet like few different friends. And we're, like, chilling. And we're like just sitting there. And at one point, everything just went silent. And we're like, this is amazing, isn't it? It's like, Yep, and one of the things that's so like, it's still gonna stay with me until this day is that he said, You know what, everything that we did in our life, you know, all the bad all the failure is literally just an administration to get to this point. And that time, just like, that is so awesome. You know, like, you know, all the time that you put in all the failures, all the work, you know, and when you stand there on top of mountain, you know, that it's all worth it, that nothing else mattered, right. And that's, that's one of the things that I love about going up the mountain, but I can totally resonate with that. So yeah, totally. And so I love how, you know, you share how you go, you win portrait, you win when you win all of these different business model and that's something that I have gone through as well. But it's They're looking for a niche that's most profitable, you looking for a niche that you love the most. And you kind of head into that, I understand that, you know, that's not always going to be the case, sometimes you kind of need to fill it with other things into that. But I really love how you stay true to what you truly passionate about. So walk us through how does that work? Because I know like, for many people wedding is very profitable. And I can't or, I mean, if I if I get $1 for every time people tell me you should go into wedding photography makes a lot of money. I would be a millionaire by now. So walk us through what are you? What are your, your mindset there? What are your hardest the, your thinking process that get you out of that? You know what I need to make money versus you know what, I can make money while doing what I'm truly passionate about?

Pete O'Hara  31:04  
Yeah, it's kind of like the million dollar question, right? Like, how do you make money while doing what you're passionate about. And to be honest, like, we're still, like when I say we are going to talk about Jenna in a bit, because like Jen is part of my story as well. And my I'm hers as well. So you know, to make money you do have to, you have to do jobs like that we did one wedding a while back, I have kind of steered away from weddings a little bit, although I was doing more weddings, in terms of is doing a couple photo weddings, but more videography, for weddings, which I still I did one in 2019 in Costa Rica. And it was amazing, you know, it was like travel. And they wanted to do this whole adventure thing. So it was kind of sticking in the realm with what I like to do still. And so I was like, yeah, we'll go to Costa Rica and film your five day wedding. And we'll go in the jungle and do adventures and all this stuff. So it was incredible. But even like, you still have to, like work on some stuff. To make money, you know, like, it's not going to be, you know, we're still kind of trying to, I guess you could say sculpt it into just doing exactly what we want to be doing. But I'm still trying to keep a percentage of myself open. Because what if I love figure out that I love doing this other thing, you know. And so we work with a lot of tourism boards. And so they'll send us out to do adventurous type shoots, but they will also be like, Hey, can you film this hotel or film this, you know, food, because that's a big part of tourism, right? Food and Beverage and places to stay. And so you still have to film a bit of a bit of that kind of stuff. And so I have all that experience, because I worked in reality TV I worked in I worked in like, you know, property shows. So I kind of have that portfolio. So that kind of helps me to produce quality work in that area. Because tourism boards, you know, it's not all just about the adventurer, right, you have to think about their needs and what they need, they don't just need your awesome banger shots, they need a couple of those, right, but they need a lot of other things to help promote their regions, right. So you have to be a little bit flexible and adaptable, right. So it's worked really well for us in that regard, because I have the photo aspect that I can do and the video aspect. And usually if you can find a client that really needs both of those, then you can kind of hit a home run, right. And so we've been able to do that a little bit over the last year with, with the various different clients and build really good ongoing relationships with them. And so and so yeah, and it's still, but still keeping that time to do what we love. Like we'll go out in the Rockies here, like I was out last week, and we were filming ice climbers, you know, we weren't getting paid for that, that might come back later. Because then I've got this portfolio of work that I'll now send into magazines, and you know, or that I could sell to the tourism, you know what I mean? So still going out just because you love going out, which is great because there's no pressure to create for a client you're just creating for yourself and then generally that actually pays itself off down the road anyways because people can see that you're passionate you're creating this unique image that you love and that's kind of like what what gets maybe hopefully not geo interested down the line or some other magazines right and so there's there's a lot of there's a lot of ways to make it work to fit within your lifestyle.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  34:18  
That is incredible. And I love that last sentence that you say there where you know you look for possibilities and I love I learned a lot from what you just say there where you say you know, I I know what I like but I still keep a percentage of that open for anything that's that's the column and I think for most of us, we choose a path and we think that is it right we focus on that and this is how we can shape the rest of our life but as you mentioned earlier, we are in a constantly changing life what to say that you are good enough, you know what's what are you Who are we to say that this is our live and you know, it's not going to change in the future for the better, right? So I really enjoy that. So

Pete O'Hara  35:09  
a small, small example of that as well, because so I sort of like said, I kind of want to niche myself to adventure, like landscape photography and videography, and that kind of stuff. And I never really thought too much about wildlife before I done a little bit, but it was very difficult to shoot as many wildlife photography, anyone know. But we actually worked with a client last year, Campbell River whalewatching out on Vancouver Island. And so they have like their boats, and they do well, they do like all kinds of amazing stuff. And so we ended up working with them doing like wildlife. And it was incredible. Like I was like, holy, I love wildlife. Now, I love shooting like we were filming grizzly bears, we were filming humpback whales, black bears, seals, dolphins, like it was just amazing. And so the video should be out really soon. I'm really proud of it, I'm really stoked with it, the clients really happy. So I'm really like, excited to share that video. And kind of also, I know, the area is kind of well known for wildlife, but I don't think people are fully aware of how the abundance of wildlife that it has there. So I'm really excited. Hopefully, the video will create some sort of awareness and get tourism driven to that area. Not too much, right? Because you want you know, you don't want to like over, you know, overdo the tourism. But I think they have enough room because it's Campbell River, and it's kind of a small area on Vancouver Island. And so just going back to that idea of keeping a little bit of that percentage open, because you can you never know what you could figure out and it's like, Man, I love shooting wildlife. It's it's a bit harder here in the Rockies to film wildlife. But, but if you get the opportunity to go somewhere, and now you have that experience, you know, it's always it's always worth keeping that those percentages open, because you never know where those opportunities will lead you to.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  37:03  
Yeah, no, that's incredible. I love hearing that. And, you know, one of those things, is, you know, when I saw you going out to Nepal, and you know, working on this project, and you create this really, really amazing footage, to to share that awareness. So, do you want to talk a little bit about how that come about? And, you know, like, what is the intention behind that project? Yeah,

Pete O'Hara  37:33  
for sure. So actually, that was a friend of mine reached out to me, he owns a company in Calgary and outdoor adventure company, and he had this client, he's like, Hey, I am not able to go on this trip. There's some scheduling conflicts or something. And so I thought about it for a while. And you know, it was for a really good cause it was for these is basically for Duchenne muscular dystrophy, and Duchenne is a very severe muscle wasting disease that happens in its genetic and it happens in children. And so the, the, the children, mostly boys, I think, too, but girls can get it as well. And so the children developed it, or they just have it from birth, basically. And, you know, the life expectancy can go up to 29 to 30 Years Old Navy, don't quote me on that, but it's just, you know, you're you become paralysed to have trouble breathing. So it's a very awful disease. And it's very, very rare. I think about only 20,000 in the US maybe have it and like maybe 300,000 worldwide, and so it's not a disease that's well known. So it's not getting a lot of attention, which means there's not a lot of research, which means there's not a cure on it. It's there's no treatment or anything. And so these fathers, their sons have Duchenne. And so they have the father, the one father's name is Jim or phone and he's the founder of a company or a nonprofit called jar of hope. Jar stands for James Anthony, ruffling, which is his son. And so they went, they tracked up to Everest base camp, to create awareness and money because there's a clinical trial, first ever clinical clinical trial now for a treatment for Duchenne. And they need I think, I think they need about 1.7 million. When the trip started, I think the trip raised about $200,000. And so I think, I think they're pretty close to raising their goal to get the clinical trial going right for the first ever treatment. And so, for me, I was kind of for a long, long time in my career. And this is the thing about photography and or any creative you get so self focused, because it's so hard, right? Like to make money to make a living. And so you kind of forget and as a child, I was like, you know, I want to work in a career where I can give back a little bit so just having that opportunity come up. I was like, Okay, this is a good opportunity. And it's like mixing my love with adventure and adventure storytelling. We're literally trekking to Everest base camp, making a mini The documentary along the way, and creating awareness for this cause and so I was, I was like, Yeah, I'm, I'm gonna do this. I'm like, it took me a while to say yes. So they need to figure out some logistics. But I was like, Okay, I'm fully now. And we went to Nepal and I didn't know any of these guys. They're like your typical all American, you know, guys, and I'm like, you're Canadian, kind of, like reserved, quiet Canadian. And so but it was like, they were the best guys ever. I love those guys, you know, we, we had such a great trip. It gots I learned so much about Duchenne and hearing their stories of like, their struggle with their families, and just being able to capture that on camera, and share share that with the world was a really, you know, I was honoured that I was able to do that, and help them with that, you know, and, and, like, I have the document or the sorry that I made a vlog, there's a documentary, and I made a vlog as well. So there's two. And so I kind of talked about this in the vlog is like, you know, my experience going to base camp is obviously different than theirs. Like, I got to have a lot of fun, you know what I mean? And like, and enjoy the trip and their purposes. You know, like, they're constantly thinking about their sons, right? Like, they're, they're not really there to have a good time. I mean, it's hard, you kind of have to find that balance, you still have to live your life a little bit, but they're their motivations are very clear. And so for me, it was really interesting watching that and their motivations and just, you know, we all kind of came away from that trip with a lot of gratitude at the end of it, you know, and it was, it was an incredible experience and being able to see Mount Everest, you know, like the tallest mountain in the world is a bucket list thing to be able to experience and be able to do that and capture an image and give back along the way was I just feel so lucky to be able to have been part of that journey.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  41:47  
Yeah, wow, that's incredible. I know, you know, like, it's sometimes it's hard to look back and give, like you say, because often we're so sucked into how to survive, right? And it's, it's such a it's such a tough life, because it's not only acids, everyone else. And I guess, you know, I love what you do there. Because if we always if we if everyone only focused on our own survival, then who are we as human right, our humanity would pretty much disappear. Right? And what you did, there is just absolutely incredible. You know, I think sharing the story of bringing awareness of this, this condition that is very rare, I actually really love how you create the blog. So I haven't really watched a blog yet. So I'd love to hear that. Because, yeah, like when you say that, I think that's very true. Like, it's really easy for us to think about life about adventure about travel, in our own view, but sometimes, you know, some people just maybe you know, a friend of a friend or you know, friend of a family that we may know, are struggling with whatever it is, it could be physical health or mental health. So I think it's really important for us to just, you know, keep an eye on that and, and have that sort of gratitude, like you say, you know, come back with, with, with a sense of thankfulness, that things are the way they are in our life instead of asking for more. So thanks a lot for sharing that. Now. One thing that I'm really interested in is, when you go on a trip there, I know, you cannot touch a little bit, right. But when you go on a trip, you have the purpose of you know, creating awareness, you know, capturing all this stuff. Now, at the same time. It's something that you never done before, I never tried in the base scam you like you say you don't really know them all that well, like, you know, you kind of just get acquainted. So how do you how do you show or how do you tell the story, the emotion within your video and photography, in order to capture all this sense emotion that, you know, they may trying to share with with the rest of the world? Yeah,

Pete O'Hara  44:17  
it's a great question. And I think what really, really helps me with that was my experience in television, because when we were working in reality TV shows, were constantly with new people every week and not just like reality TV. I was doing like corporate videos, I'm constantly meeting other people. And so you have to like have conversations you have to want get them to warm up to you not just to your camera, but to you as a person right and so it's oddly become like my job to do that. You know what I mean? So it's like, it feels quite natural, just to like, I mean, it's like it's essentially kind of easy, just like, it's like going to the coffee shop with someone you never met before and just starting a conversation. And for, you know, a project like going to bed camp were with each other for like, I think it was like 12 days under these really strenuous hiking conditions like you get to know each other really, really quickly right? There, you know, you're walking through rain, you're walking through snow, that you're going up in high elevation, you're losing your breath. And so you get to know each other really quickly. And so everybody gets vulnerable really, really fast. And then they start to open up to you. And I think, you know, that plus having the, the sort of knowledge that we're all on the same page wanting to share this story with the world, and like Jim and Dylan, their sons have Duchenne. And they have, they had an incredible willingness and understanding how important it is to share this story. They were vulnerable with me, they opened up to me, you know, they, they showed me some moments that were, you know, like, their, that were quite emotional. And they and they were perfectly okay with that, because they knew it was going to help the story and help help the, you know, ultimately help their sons. That's what they're there to do. And so, you know, I was just able to capture these amazing moments, I was able to put the camera on them, ask them questions, and they even came to me sometimes, and were like, Hey, I really got something to say, here. I was, like, great. So just held up the camera, and they were very open about their journey with their sons, and like, why this trip to Basecamp was so important to them. And so, you know, it all came together really nicely, I thought, and, you know, I was happy to, like, we made a film, and the film should be coming out soon, it's a bit about half an hour. And then I asked if I could also create a vlog just like sort of, like my point of view of the trip, because I'm not in the film, right. It's just like, the footage. And so I just wanted to share, like, sort of my point of view, and I think they really appreciate that as well. Because, again, like, it's such a rare disease. So just getting that message out there to as many people as possible. They were, they're very happy that I made the vlog and was able to share it. And so and I likewise, for me as well, I was like, really happy to, to share that vlog. And, you know, I think it was probably like, it was definitely one of the most meaningful things I feel like I've created, you know, because I haven't eyes we talked about, like, it made me realise, like, I want to do a lot more of this, I want to use my skills of what I have to sort of help people. And that doesn't have to always be financially Right. Like, I can use my skills as a photographer, as a cinematographer to tell a story to help people. And so I want to allot time, if I can, every year to do a project like that. And so, yeah, I'm just, I, you know, and it's one of those things as a kid, I remember, like flipping through, I think I can't remember because it was a kid, right, but I just remember seeing like a NatGeo, or something. And it was photographers. And they talked about, like, drawing their lens to these issues in the world that needed to be heard. And I really like that really stuck to me as a kid. So to now be able to sort of take that and do that, as an adult, I just think is is really rewarding.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  48:00  
You know, that that is so powerful that you share that. And I think if there is anything that the listeners or, you know, photographers out there can take out of this is that typography and videography is such an important and such an essential thing in our life. Right. And for artists, especially photographers and videographers, a lot of times we think about it the other way, where you know, the stuff that we put out is not valuable. And, you know, that's where a lot of the starving mindset kind of come in. But what you say there is just so profound, how, you know, our photos, and our videos are the things that tell the story. And without a story, you can't move people in motion, you can't, you know, raise a fund for a certain research, you can't convince people to travel to, you know, a certain part of the world and you can't express love or connection between two different people. And this is I think it's really important if there is any photographers who feel like, you know, I don't know, like my photo is not great. Like, it doesn't matter how good or bad your photo is. But if you compare it to the fact that people don't have any of those photos, it's a world of difference without photo, our our world are boring, we probably want to travel because we don't know what's out there. We probably don't have to travel because we think what we have is the best thing in the world. So, you know, I really love you what you say there. And one thing that I'm interested in, right because you're a photographer and a videographer. How does the storytelling shift between the two because in video you have a little bit more time you could you know set the scene you can create a certain movement a certain dialogue a certain Um, voiceover or whatnot, but in a photo, that's it, like, whatever one shot, you take, it has to tell the whole story, right? So I'm really interested for someone who come from videography, right from creating a story within a longer length of time. How do you transfer that into a photography? And how can you create the best, most impactful story within one frame?

Pete O'Hara  50:30  
As a great question, I feel like I have to ask myself that every time I'm shooting is like, okay, how can I make this work within one frame? I think for video, and I'm always experimenting, video is obviously it depends what you're what you're doing, like the average trip was 11 days. And so you know, in terms of making an impact with that video, it was about, you know, you have your typical, like, you're covering your scenes of us hiking to base camp, you know, it's exciting, it's exhausting, it's raining. So you have all that the typical adventure stuff. And then it's sort of sprinkled with, I did interviews every day, at the sort of at the beginning and sort of at the end of every day. And then I would ask them questions throughout the trip, and they would give me these moments of, you know, very, I found very impactful moments of them talking about their sons. And so the story is, we're going to base camp to raise awareness for Duchenne muscular dystrophy. And then you sprinkle that with the sort of, you get to know them along the way, right. And that's like, Jim talking about his son very emotionally, you know, like, I was almost like crying, holding the camera listening to him, because their sons are dying, you know. And so and Dylan, same thing, he's just like, there's a moment in the vlog to where it's like, my favourite moment, he just totally opens up. He's like, you know, he's like, you know, some parents worry about how their kids are going to do in sports, but he's like, the only thing I can really think about is just like, how fast can we fund these clinical trials, so that, you know, my son can have an extra year or two. And so just getting those moments on camera, like them saying those moments, and then, you know, using those moments, that sort of voiceover to tell a story as they're walking into base camp, that sort of like, that's what I love about film, it's this whole thing of all these, like, you know, like amazing, either sound bytes, or video or music all mixed in together over either 510 minutes, or, you know, in commercial film, like an hour and a half, right. And so films like this whole other other beast, you're still, you know, framing images and framing shots. But I think the emotions are hitting you on a different level, because you're like, you're hearing people, you're seeing people, there's like sound to it. You know, there's there's movement. And so, you know, that's just, that's another thing that's like, endless, you can work with that within a life like, you can work to improve that through your whole life. Right? So I love that. And then photography, there's no music, there's no sound, it's just an image, right? But it's a still image. And so you have to kind of think about, well, what makes a really impactful still image and so and, you know, I'm always experimenting for me, it's like, either, it's an incredible landscape landscape that takes my breath away, whether it's the auroras over the vest, or horn and Iceland's, you know, this huge panoramic shots that I took. Or if it's like we were last week in an ice cave, and we had an Ice Climber climbing up to the top of the ice cave. And, you know, the fact that it was at blue hour or Twilight hour, it was dark. So a lot of the darkness overtakes the frame, and you just see kind of your attention is more drawn to the light of the head torch. To me, that's like, it's hard to put it into words, but it's really impactful. And it's really powerful. Because you're just looking at this one image, maybe you're wondering, like, wow, where the hell are they like, his like, is way deep into the back country? Or like, what led up to that moment? And so, yeah, it's just, I think they're both very powerful tools. And video takes a lot longer, but it's just as powerful and photo maybe sometimes it can take just as long you could be out there for months. But sometimes it's just this one photo can just express an entire thing, right? And so, yeah, I just totally addicted to them both. And actually, the k photo that I was just talking about, we did do some, it's hard, right? Because you're in the fields. And you have the videographer mindset, and you have the photographer mindset, right? And so usually, usually when I'm going out into the backcountry on our own in the Rockies, I'm always in the photography mindset, because work is more video related, right? And so I'm usually doing photos just on my own, but we always try to capture I always try to make a point to capture some video aspects of something. You know what I mean? Just because For over a year or two, I can piece together a whole story. But actually the so I was in photo mindset going out to the ice cave to film these are to shoot these climbers. But we did one of the climbers is also a photographer and a videographer. So he we're filming little pieces along the way of the whole trip, right. And so we put together the video pieces of us getting to the ice cave, you know them tying up the ropes, and then climbing up. And then we also put the images in the film as well. So like you have this whole mix, and it all comes together in the end. So you put all these ingredients in the barrel and mix it all up, and you have this film with some images in it. So that's a good, I think example of how I kind of utilise both. But I will say that, depending on the mindset, I mean, it's hard to do both right. So either, if I'm more in the video mindset than the photos will kind of suffer a little bit or take more of a backseat and vice versa. I mean, the photo mindset and the video kind of takes a backseat because they do kind of require your full attention at all times. You know what I mean, to be able to craft the perfect image.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  56:03  
I love how you say that because it took me a long time until I realised that I was like, Yeah, I can fly my drone and take photos like now. Like, I always want to take photo, I want to do time lapse on apply drone is like no, you just have to like focus on one and everything else will suffer like you say and you know, focus on the thing that truly mattered most within that particular time. So yeah, wow, that's, that's just incredible. I love hearing that perspective from a videographer, that kind of shift into photography instead of you know, the other way around. Because I feel like most people are, you know, their journey is, is the opposite where they start with photography, and then they get into videography. I know that's, that's what's the case for me. So yeah, really, really interesting to hear that. So amazing. Thank you very much. Well, we, you know, it's been an amazing conversation. I can't I can't believe it's been an hour like you chatted, and it's literally felt like it's 15 minutes. But it's been an incredible story. You know, thank you a lot. Thanks a lot for sharing that story, especially the height that you did for the Shem. Disease. Oceania, just can muscular dystrophy. Yeah, the Shen muscular dystrophy? And it's, it's, I think, when you say that, when you tell them how, you know, most parents are worried about the are they going to be getting a or are they going to be good in sports? Well, you know, they all they care about is how they can do something so that their son can live just that little further, this is such an a grounding, worse, you know, that you share that man, like, we are so lucky to be here in our life, especially if you don't have any disease, you you can go anywhere in the world. You know, like, I mean, you can walk, you don't have a problem with that, man, we are lucky. And I think a lot of people just don't, like take that for granted. So

Pete O'Hara  58:14  
really, truly, I mean, just to be able to I was like reading a book the other day, and it's just like, just think about it, like, just think about it, like, even anyone, like not, there's people in the world right now who are just focused on survival. But if you think back to even your ancestors, like it was all just about survival. So just being grateful that we even have the ability to ponder our, our, our purpose, you know, or for me, it's like for our ability to just go after a career or just my love of photography and cinematography. I'm just able to do that. So just as hard as it is just be grateful that I'm allowed to be able to do that. Because, you know, there's a lot of people that aren't allowed to do that. They they're just purely focused on survival. So I tried to tell myself that every day as well just be really grateful for the just the opportunity to be able to even try this for a career and as a life, you know,

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  59:08  
yeah. Wow. That's, that's, that's really important. And that just gives me goosebumps there that you say, you know, just, it's like, like you say, it's an opportunity that is presented to us, and it's up to us whether to take it or not. So, thanks a lot, Pete. You know, for your stories, your wisdom, I really enjoy that. Now, one thing that I always ask the guests in the podcasts is that if there is one advice, whether it's photography, or live advice, or whatever other advice that you have, that you could give your younger self or the audience out there, what would that advice be?

Pete O'Hara  59:44  
Yeah, it's a great question. I think I might have like two little ones. One of the ones I think like in photography, I would say that I would have told my younger self, and I think it's kind of boring, but I think it's kind of important to hear is like, we don't really I was always focused on the living in the moment for today and stuff. And so you don't really focus a lot on like saving money and all that kind of stuff. But learning the business, learning how to save getting all that done earlier, the sooner you do that, the better to allow you more freedom later. And so I learned that a little bit later. And so I would say I regret because I mean, I've had such amazing experiences, but just having that information a little sooner. So if you're hearing this, and you're younger than that means you something to look into, that will help you and will ultimately get you more freedom in your career down the line is, I think, a good piece of advice that I learned in my life. And, you know, there's so much information out there that you can like Google it, there's books to help you. And so I think I think people can figure that as everything is figured out a bowl, and they can figure out that aspect quite easily. And then one thing that I read today somewhere, and I really think this is important, too is if you find yourself like in a really busy schedule, and we kind of touched on this in the podcast a little bit too is like, allow a little bit of a percentage of time or just a space in your mind to or in your schedule. Like give yourself an opportunity to explore something new, whether it's in your career, or, or whatever it is career or schedule. So for instance, like I said, we had this opportunity to sort of dive more into wildlife. And that turned out to be an incredible thing. Or even if it's just a schedule thing, like if you have a fully booked summer, try to squeeze in a week where nothing is scheduled just to potentially allow something to happen, right? You know what I mean? Like something spontaneous, because that spontaneity will you don't you don't know where that will lead you to. And for instance, for me, like, what the impetus for moving out to the Rockies was like, I kind of had this drive to come out here. But I was working this full time job and TV and I just decided to leave the job. Like I found someone to replace me to come out to the Rockies for the summer, right and just allowing myself to have that freedom. Basically, I came out here and that my girlfriend Now Janet, who's also photographer, you know, we went on all these hikes and it just basically just allowing that time and that window of opportunity to exist basically like I felt like I opened up the door in my life was like right there, right, I met Jenna, we're going out together. And you know, we're building our lives together in this Rockies. So if I didn't allow for that window of time to happen, if I had chosen to stay comfortable, and earn the money that summer, I wouldn't be where I was today. And so just I think giving yourself those windows of opportunity to explore something can lead you into something incredible.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  1:02:46  
Ah, that is such a great advice. Such a great advice. I mean, if we look at the amount of people who are successful in this world today and how they find or how they discover that path of life through travel, or to try new things or true, accidental, you know, things that they never thought it would have, lead them to where they are, I think this is a really, really important lesson to learn. And I love how you mentioned about setting yourself up for success as well as you get older. And, you know, I mean, for me like it, I that's all I care about in the early age, and I thought you know, in, because that's how I brought up, right? It's like, Well, you gotta save, you gotta save and then you retire, and then you can enjoy all this, right? So, I always I used to always think that it was a waste of time for me to do that. But you know, now that I when I left my career in engineering and you know, starting over, that really helped me out when when I don't have things coming through, right, I could I could help me to through all the all the tough time of not having income and all that. So it's I think it's really good advice, especially if you don't know what, how to invest or how to save, you know, at the very least start learning and you know, start doing that even just a little bit. So amazing advice be Thank you very much. Now, you know, you have amazing work you have beautiful photography, as well as videography and you know, how can people learn more about you? And how can people support you as well?

Pete O'Hara  1:04:35  
Oh, that's a good question. Support sports hard like um, well, you can go to my website, Silver Fern productions.ca. I put a lot of my work onto there a lot of the video work a lot of the photography work, and I'm just in the process of revamping the whole thing, but it's still still live online there. You can find me on Instagram Pete underscore O'Hara and Twitter Pete O'Hara photo and YouTube, I have a YouTube channel with Jenna called adventures with Pete and Jenna. And the Everest vlog that we were talking about is on there as well. And so I'll eventually have, I took my print shop down for the moment because I'm in the middle of rebuilding it. And so I mean, you could do me if you want to print or you can wait for the print shop to be live should be live in the next couple of months. If you want to support me, or you can just go to the YouTube subscribe, just tag along on the adventures. And hopefully you enjoy them.

Unknown Speaker  1:05:31  
That's fantastic.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  1:05:33  
I love your ear, you guys go on some of the most, the coolest adventures and, you know, if you haven't checked out Pete's work, please do check them out, because you take them to a world where again, like I said, felt like it's not in this world anymore. You know, it's felt like it's somewhere else. So going on your adventure itself. It's just, you know, it really fed my framing for winter. Because here in Bali, unfortunately, we don't have unless it's on the cocktails.

Pete O'Hara  1:06:07  
Well, I'm happy to hear that if I can make people fall in love with winter, then that makes me happy, man.

Unknown Speaker  1:06:13  
That's awesome. All right. Well,

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  1:06:15  
thanks a lot for you know, for your time and for being here and sharing your story as well as your journey. And we can't this hopefully you get a lot of that. And it's been an incredible storytelling. You know, from P Gocek. His profile out, look at his YouTube channel, and the beautiful videography that he does. It's just absolutely beautiful. But with that being said, if you haven't subscribed yet, do subscribe on the podcasts if you want to hear more story like this. And if you have other artists that you'd love to hear in this podcast, please do let me know. So that I could reach out to them. But without being said, b Thank you very much for your time here. And it's been a great conversation. And hopefully we have you back here one day and chat on a different things.

Pete O'Hara  1:07:10  
Yeah, might have some new failures to talk about and what I learned from them. Thanks again for having me, Stan, this was so much fun. And I really appreciate you doing this podcast for photographers. And I want to say too, that I really love your work. And it really both Jen and I it transports us as well. I mean, your work is incredible. Your Astro photography is phenomenal. And I just I always love looking at your work. It's just it's so beautiful. And thank you for having me and thanks for sharing this time. Thanks.

Stanley Aryanto - The Wicked Hunt  1:07:40  
And I appreciate that very much. Thank you. Alright, well we can do is, you know, with that being said, I'll see you guys next week and we have someone exciting next week, which I don't know who's gonna be in there yet, but it's gonna be exciting nonetheless.

Unknown Speaker  1:07:53  
I'll see you guys later. Bye.