Ivey Gruber, President of the Michigan Talk Network, joins Steve to talk about the holiday shopping season and why Americans are shifting toward valuing experiences and quality time over piling up more possessions. They also dive into some of the most absurd political moments of the week, including Democrat Rep. Benny Thompson brushing off the National Guard tragedy in D.C. as merely an “unfortunate accident,” and a Kentucky state representative lecturing white people, especially white men, that they should feel “white guilt” simply for being who they are. It’s a mix of cultural sanity, season-of-life reflection, and political madness all in one conversation.