361: The Legend of Ochi/Mac and Me with Guest Adam Beam

This week, we’re exploring two very different takes on otherworldly connection—one artful, one absurd.

First up: The Legend of Ochi, a moody, visually rich fantasy where language is limited but emotion runs deep. Then we shift gears—hard—to Mac and Me, the 1988 cult oddity that tried to be E.T. but ended up being a two-hour commercial for Coca-Cola and McDonald’s.

Adam Beam joins us to talk cinematic world-building, creature design, and unintentional comedy as we explore two breweries from Maine: Sacred Profane
and Bunker Brewing Co.