Competitive‑hockey grit and weekly therapy keep CMO Mark Huber sane inside VC‑paced growth. He and Jolie dive into blocking therapy like a board meeting, decoupling self-worth from the pipeline, and why voice-note walks beat Slack doom-scrolls.
Key Takeaways
• Therapy on the calendar is a power move, not weakness.
• Outcome ≠ identity: effort is the real KPI.
• Leaders destigmatize mental health by speaking first.
• Voice‑note walks turn rumination into insight.
• Humor keeps intensity sustainable in startups.
Timestamps
00:01 Intro: therapy as strategic asset
04:50 ADHD superpower & pitfalls
08:43 Blocking non‑negotiable care time
13:43 Stigma vs. strength in leadership
17:07 Detach quota from self‑esteem
21:55 Voice‑note reflection workflow
25:51 Culture of open calendars
30:31 Nature breaks & perspective
35:12 Making therapy normal company‑wide
39:18 Outro & LinkedIn connect
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Links
Mark Huber: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markehuber/
UserEvidence: https://userevidence.com/
Jolie Shapiro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolieshapiro/
Revenue Mind: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revenuemind/