Episode 1: Greg Surratt on burnout, and the guy in the aquarium.

The one where we talk to our brother Greg about calming down, the Outreach 100, and the guy who jumped into the Bass Pro aquarium naked.

Find out more abut The Retreat at Church Creek where Greg Surratt invests in pastors almost every week.

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