Episode 4: “What Does it Mean to Freedom Dream?”: Disrupting Traps and Tropes with Dr. Jamila Dugan

In Episode 4, co-author Jamila Dugan is back and giving us the inside scope on equity traps and tropes. First, we dig into how this chapter came to be (spoiler alert: from a rant!) and the conversation shifts to the luminous landscape of radical dreaming, exploring, in Jamila’s words: “What does it actively mean to freedom dream and who am I dreaming with?” Shane, Jamila, and Alcine think about how to live a life of big dreams and abundance, and the ways that hustle and grind culture often dims our dreams. Jamila shares some brilliant tips, like reverse calendaring and–drum roll–taking the email app off your phone!

For Further Learning:

• Get a copy of Street Data on Amazon, Corwin Press, or from a BIPOC-owned local bookstore.
• Read Jamila's recent EL Magazine article on Radical Dreaming here.
• Work with the Equity Traps and Tropes Inquiry Tool Jamila mentions.
• Check out Freedom Dreams: The Black Radical Imagination by Robin D.G. Kelley.