Paratopia 023: Wes Owsley Challenges Secret Space Program

Join The Jeff & The Jer as they welcome Wes Owsley, Ex-NASA SysAdmin for Russia. Wes has long heard talk of a secret space program and is here to educate the UFO and conspiracy communities about the notion. He has a fascinating work history that has taken him deep into the NASA space program where he has met and worked with many astronauts and cosmonauts. Won't you be shocked when you find out what radio show NASA folks are listening to?

Also... from astronauts to psychonauts... Jeremy Vaeni took an unfathomable 10 hour mushroom trip to find out if, as Dr.Rick Strassman, Dr. Dennis McKenna, and Graham Hancok claim, shrooms open you up to other dimensions, not hallucinations, and can produce alien abductions.

What did he find? The answer will definitely surprise you!