This was part 2 of our three way conversation. Here is part 1. https://youtu.be/DIoppyflMwg
At John's invitation the three of us got together to talk about the relationship between dialogue, dia-logos and narrative. It was great fun. You can find John's channel here @John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpqDUjTsof-kTNpnyWper_Q and Mary's channel here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2leFZRD0ZlQDQxpR2Zd8oA
Convo NotesParabolic knowledge
4-ps of knowing
Brain function as it relates to Relevance R...
This was part 2 of our three way conversation. Here is part 1. https://youtu.be/DIoppyflMwg
At John's invitation the three of us got together to talk about the relationship between dialogue, dia-logos and narrative. It was great fun. You can find John's channel here @John Vervaeke https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpqDUjTsof-kTNpnyWper_Q and Mary's channel here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2leFZRD0ZlQDQxpR2Zd8oA
Convo Notes
Parabolic knowledge
4-ps of knowing
Brain function as it relates to Relevance Realization
Self-organizing criticality and small world networks
Brain is adapted to make optimum use of limited resources
Trade-offs and optimum efficiency
Single points of failure would be critical, or redundancy but less efficient
Trade-off shows off in the way the brain organizes its own neural networks
Small world networks provide optimum value between
Brain is constantly building networks, the way they are firing together
Pattern is being built. Billions created and dissolved,
They fall away and re-configure, similar to self-organizing criticality
Tornado, grains of sand
Relate this to parabolic knowing
Structure, more like a forest packed with the trees one right next to the other
All the trees connecting with one another
The Firing looks like a random thing
Blue brain project
Round work brain, rat brains
Hyper-dimensional polyhedrons
Could have called parabolic knowledge "analogical"
Interpretation is getting locked down rather than opening up
Laying side by side, but the one to one kind of things
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedre_Gentner, theory of analogy
Analogy is more strict
A car collides with a truck, the woman hit the man
A is to B and Y is to Z
Bird is to wing, as fish is to fin
Bird is to wing, as blank is to fin (fish)
The sun is to the planet as the nucleus is to the electrons
In terms of geometry
Triangle doodling, this is already an analogy
It's a flip
It's an analogy of the one that was there before
The planets are not doing calculus, that is what is happening, it is adding dimensions
The same thing is going on in the brain inside of these neural networks, collapses inside of the brain itself the possibility space, it's trying to get to that small world network, it's a analogic function even with regard to the structure of the brain
The logic collapse the combinatorially explosive network
Want to take the logic down into the chain of life. The deep continuity
All of those little sponges are organized and it will still be that a is to b as y is to z
Movement,
Hypothalamus place neurons, rat watching the same neurons will fire
Anything that has to move to maintain the integrity of that movement has that same logical function
People that religious framework are taking seriously!
Recursivity: a system is recursive, scale and variant, if they were identical there would be no point in doing it
Deep continuity as something different from reduction
The language of collapse, only because the brain is doing self-organizing criticality and small world organization is why it scales and
The system is doing relevance realization
knife, fork and spoon, daddy, mommy, baby
Propositional
Perspectival
Participatory
Procedural
Prepositional: on, in, to, (relational)
Parabolic
Proverbial
"The effect being in the cause"
Wing to bird is a part-whole relationship
All knowing is mapping relations
Every kind of knowing is this process
The functional relationship: Mary Douglas: people look to structural, functional relationships
Relating
Desire
Relevance realization is about caring
Salience, affect, motivation
Have to take care of myself
Auto-poetic, take care of themselves
Nemotots
Science smuggling in
Deep continuity
Symbolic world in dialogue with deep continuity
Distributive cognition is the up from deep
Evan Thompson
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