Elizabeth Farah interviews Victor Avila, a retired Homeland Security agent, discussing the challenges posed by illegal immigration, cartel influence, and national security under current U.S. policies. They argue that lax immigration policies have encouraged millions to enter illegally, overwhelming public resources, increasing crime, and straining law enforcement. Avila compares cartels to terrorist organizations and calls for designating them as such to empower law enforcement with stronger tools to combat them. The conversation emphasizes the need for mass deportations, with self-deportation encouraged through financial penalties and warnings of lifetime bans. They propose cooperation with countries like El Salvador to set up detention centers and advocate for increased law enforcement at the border. Both stress that U.S. sovereignty is at risk if policies remain unchanged and urge citizens to engage in local politics, vote, and hold leaders accountable. They conclude that saving the country requires not just political leadership but active participation from everyday Americans.