Billy talks about techniques he is trying to use to stay calm during recording the podcast. Steve talks about a friends praise of the show. Billy explains how he will treat people who have, and have not, supported the podcast, and himself being selfish. People who show pictures without being asked are the worst. Steve talks about a "Friendsgiving", and the guys talk about their dislike of parties or gatherings. They discuss "24", suspending disbelief when watching tv and movies, and that leads to a conversation about torture, and Steve shows his self-proclaimed "liberal side." They discuss an NYC police shooting. Billy makes an assumption, and is right. Steve talks about why he doesn't have a gun, and explains his concert experience. Billy hits on another assumption.