Between Twitter, TikTok, and now a global pandemic, is this the hardest time ever to be an effective preacher? How can we get people who have the attention span of a gnat to actually want to listen to our sermons? Dr. Lucas O'Neill, Professor of Homiletics at TEDS, teaches us how to create tension, effectively outline, and move seamlessly from one thought to the next. His recent book, Preaching to Be Heard: Delivering Sermons that Demand Attention, is the perfect follow up to this conversation. Whether you've been preaching for 50 years or just starting out, Dr. O'Neill can help you get better at your craft!