Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other

How to Discuss Ukraine: First Principles, Facts, and Formulating Reasoned Positions

2025-03-07

In this episode we dive into the complex issue of Ukraine, America's involvement, and the broader implications for democracy and global alliances. This episode is an exploration of how we can develop reasoned positions on global conflicts, engage in informed discussions, and recognize the limitations of our own expertise. What We Discuss How to approach discussions about Ukraine with a reasoned, principled perspective. The importance of distinguishing between facts and opinions in political discourse. How to recognize and rely on credible experts...

What We Discuss

How to approach discussions about Ukraine with a reasoned, principled perspective.
The importance of distinguishing between facts and opinions in political discourse.
How to recognize and rely on credible experts rather than self-appointed commentators.
Strategies for engaging in meaningful conversations with those who hold different views.
Why shared values and historical context matter in forming ethical positions.

Episode Highlights

[00:01:00] – Corey introduces the topic, emphasizing the importance of forming reasoned opinions based on principles rather than political affiliations.

[00:04:00] – The rise of divisive, “owning the libs” mentalities in political discourse and the shift away from virtues like decency and integrity.

[00:06:00] – Discussion of a powerful article by Dr. Russell Moore on the moral costs of ignoring Ukraine’s plight and the dangers of moral relativism in international affairs.

[00:09:00] – The importance of verifying facts through reputable sources like the Council on Foreign Relations, rather than relying on partisan opinionators.

[00:13:00] – Why experts like Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Anne Applebaum and military expert Alexander Vindman are critical voices in understanding the Ukraine conflict.

[00:18:00] – The dangers of allowing misinformation to shape public opinion and the tactics used in political debates to shift blame and avoid accountability.

[00:24:00] – Strategies for having better conversations, including finding shared values, hunting for points of agreement, and engaging with intellectual humility.

[00:28:00] – A reflection on balancing justice, kindness, and humility in both personal interactions and global politics, inspired by Micah 6:8.

Featured Quotes

🗣 “We can formulate reasoned positions on complicated issues, including Ukraine, by starting with principles rather than political affiliations.”

🗣 “Opinion is not fact. There’s a difference between listening to a trusted expert and being swayed by a partisan commentator.”

🗣 “What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God...” – Micah 6:8

Resources Mentioned

Dr. Russell Moore’s Essay – The Moral Cost of Murdering Ukraine
Anne Applebaum’s Article – The End of the Post-War World
Council on Foreign Relations – Ukraine Conflict Updates (CFR)
Alexander Vindman’s Book – The Folly of Realism: How the West Deceived Itself About Russia and Betrayed Ukraine
Ross Douthat’s Opinion Piece – Trump and Vance Are Stripping Away Foreign Policy Illusions

📣 Call to Action

If you found this conversation insightful, please:
✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform.
✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics
✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion
✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion

🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media

@coreysnathan: