Ivor Cummins - Will Ireland Say No to Orwellian Hate Speech Law?

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Ivor Cummins, maybe better known to many of us as The Fat Emperor, has challenged the Covid narrative from the very beginning.  
He joins us today to discuss a new tyranny happening not only in Ireland but across the whole of Europe. Compelled speech. 
Ireland's new "Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences" Bill has been waiting for approval in the Senate since the summer. 
This biggest curtailment of free speech was set to quickly pass until scrutiny from free speech champions stalled it. 
Ivor goes through the bill and the expected consequences. 

Ivor Cummins BE(Chem) CEng MIEI  completed a Biochemical Engineering degree in 1990. He has since spent 30 years in corporate technical leadership positions. His career specialty has been leading large worldwide teams in complex problem-solving activity.  
Since 2012 Ivor has been intensively researching the root causes of modern chronic disease. A particular focus has been on cardiovascular disease, diabetes and obesity. He shares his research insights at public speaking engagements around the world, revealing the key nutritional and lifestyle interventions which will deliver excellent health and personal productivity. He has recently presented at the British Association of Cardiovascular Prevention and Rehabilitation (BACPR) and also at the Irish National Institute of Preventative Cardiology (NIPC) annual conferences. 
Ivor’s 2018 book “Eat Rich, Live Long” (co-authored with preventative medicine expert Jeffry Gerber MD, FAAFP), details the conclusions of their shared research: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Rich-Live-Long-Mastering/dp/1628602732/

Interview recorded 12.12.23 

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Transcript

(Hearts of Oak)

Today, I'm delighted to have Ivor Cummins with us, The Fat Emperor.
Ivor, thanks so much for your time today.

(Ivor Cummins)

No worries, Peter. Always good to chat about real truth and accuracy and avoid misinformation, shall we say.

Which is fast and thick and furious and being thrown at us from every angle.
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching your different videos.
I know recently you've done Dr Pierre Kory, who we had on, you've obviously been on TNT Radio, I saw I think recently with Darren Denslow who's been on with us quite a number of times and I think your title on that was Technical Manager, Biochemical Engineer and Technologist and obviously you've got your background in biochemical engineering and probably over the last couple of years you've been very vocal on pushing back against the COVID tyranny and then it's much wider.
I think from 2012 you've been researching the root causes of modern chronic disease, focusing on cardiovascular and I'm sure that over the last three years a lot has been added to that, that you weren't expecting.
But maybe you just take a moment and introduce yourself before we get on to what is happening in Ireland and the criminalization of speech.

Yeah absolutely, so briefly I did biochemical engineering, I graduated in 1990, I spent five years in medical device and development of dialysis units and all that kind of stuff.
So I got a lot of medical exposure there at the time, but then the next 20 years, plus I was on the high volume kind of, uh, electro fluidic devices.
And it was great because it's extremely complex when you have around 10 sites around the whole world, making products, uh, billions, ultimately of complex devices, the slightest problem or the most subtle problems, it can become huge, you can lose millions of dollars overnight.
So I was the master problem solver. Ultimately, I ran large teams on the most complex problems, multi factor.
And I did that for 10 or 15 years, 20 years.
And I was also a manager as well of teams of up to 20 engineers, directly people managing them, that was great experience.
So, I just got this vast experience in complex problem solving and people management and essentially a form of politics, corporate politics, which was also very useful.
And what we're seeing since COVID started, coming ultimately from Rockefeller Brothers Fund in the 50s, right through Club of Rome, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations, UN, the EU, I'm beginning to view those as a complex problem solver as almost synonymous.
So they're all so interconnected and countless NGOs and corporates and the World Economic Forum that people find it hard to believe.
Well, how could this be orchestrated? Who could possibly organize it?
And it's actually quite simple.
It's a long game plan for a global governance structure.
And it's funded by the people at the top and the most powerful political people and the US State Department has an interest.
And they're all working for around half century or more since the Second World War towards a very tight, well-controlled global government.
And yeah, it's not that hard to orchestrate, because all the right people are doing it.
And they're doing it like we did things, corporate style. It's very structured.
It's full of lovely language.
It's got lovely goals that sound great. It's obviously highly sinister under the hood.
But yeah, it's not that complex. But most people don't have the corporate experience to be able to decode something like this, find all the players and just see the whole picture.
And that's the problem. Just like people have no knowledge of virology or epidemiology, you know, or immunology.
So you can fool the people with ease.
And that's the challenge we've been seeing. And that's what I jumped into in March, 2020, because I could see pretty quickly, I have five children, I could see where it was going, it wasn't hard.
And I just knew that this is kind of the battle of our generation, there's no question about that.
And if we lose, we'll have a China-style society in the West, and that's pretty much the outcome.

Yeah, and I respect those views.
I think Naomi Wolf actually mentioned that from day one, whenever it was announced shutting down Broadway, then her and her husband left New York immediately.
Others has taken a little bit longer to see through.
You're hoping for the best in institutions, in society, in media.
I think we've realized there is no best there.
But what has been then your last three and a half year because that's a world away from a background in the biochemistry, the research.
What you're doing now is so different. So I mean let us know that change and what that has been like for you personally.

Yes, it's certainly been interesting, but you live in interesting times.
So 2012, 13 up to 2020, when COVID hit, I was deeply involved in biomedical and metabolic research, and I was going all over the world speaking.
A wealthy Irish entrepreneur was funding me to travel all over the world to conferences, medical and nutritional, and to explain to people how what caused heart disease, Alzheimer's, most of the solid tumour cancers that cause the most death, and all of these modern chronic diseases go back to the devil's triad.
So very simple, I named it that.
It's sugar, refined grains, refined carbohydrates, and vegetable oils, seed oils.
And that's what makes up most processed foods, which is around 60% of everyone's calories.
So essentially, were poisoning the population for nearly a century now.
So I was lecturing on all of that and on insulin resistance, which is the big thing you measure, because that's the target you have to get down low, and then you're pretty much okay.
But then when COVID hit, I had been so involved in the corruption of the statin kind of industry, the cholesterol-lowering nonsense.
I'd been involved in a lot of drug corruption, and also back in the 90s, I'd actually been directly involved, not personally doing things, but older engineers were doing things completely against the rules.
And it was common practice, you know, in biomedical manufacture.
And I'm sure that never changed. So I had all this experience in the corporate corruption.
I had all the experience in my own corporate roles in the last 15 years, again, in the corporate politics and corruption.
And I had all the medical and biomedical knowledge now and metabolic.
So when COVID hit, I was on stage in Denver, big room and giving a talk and then I came down and Trump was shutting down the country and I said what the hell is going on?
And my wife had said previously, she had said should we get masks?
Now she's a first class honours engineer and she's aware of a lot of my work but she assumed COVID was a big deal and I just smiled and this was early March I think and I said not at all sure.
I saw the Diamond Princess data and you could see from who died and who didn't that it was going to be a bad flu equivalent.
I mean, there's no question about that. The ship had shared AC.
They were crammed together. They got 25% positivity.
It was an extreme maximiser of infection. So you see the end result.
And a few people in their late 70s and late 80s passed away.
That was it. So we knew. But when they shut the airports, I said okay they're gonna pull a swine flu and they're gonna pull a big swine flu, a scam. And got back to Ireland and after that I just started interviewing immunologists, virologists, epidemiologist because when I will call something constantly I check with my massive network and my massive network of specialist in all the medical fields grew rapidly because a lot of people out there who are seeing that this is crazy.
And so within a few months, I knew not only everything you needed to know about COVID, the mortality impact, the lockdown ineffectiveness, mask ineffectiveness, seasonality, I cracked the whole lot with the help of my network.
And I began to explain it in layperson's terms. And that's when I began to get smashed, put in the newspapers, and censored.
Even though I didn't talk any anti-vax, any crazy stuff, everything I said was referenced to government data. I was very careful.
But in September, my viral video shot up to millions of views, half an hour, just me with slides, just explaining all the factors in COVID, just what it was.
And the New York Times did a half-page article on me. It's like, whoa, a half-page hit piece on an Irish engineer.
But at that stage, I knew that this was a total orchestrated scam. There was no question.
So it didn't actually surprise me that the New York Times devoted half a page to an Irish engineer because the system and the media particularly were owned.
And my video had corporate CEOs.
They actually said it in the article.
A leader in the COVID scam in the US, I forget his name, said, I have people from major companies, CEOs, coming to me asking, is this Irish guy right?
So it shocked them. Just truth. Just truth. That's all it was.

Well I think we learned people are hungry for information and that information is becoming, can be more difficult to access.
But I want to go, I mean, I'd love to pick you up on that, on the. Fascinating.
I know your book, Eat Rich Live Long, is available.
Links are in the description and people can get a hold of that.
And that health is a hot topic, but I want to talk to you about Ireland and the restrictions on speech.
I mean Ireland has had incitement to hatred, hate speech laws for I think it was 89 or 90 was introduced, the UK has had it across Europe, but what is happening in Ireland at the moment with this new piece of legislation has really woken a lot of people up.
I mean I saw an article in Newsweek magazine a couple of days ago and they were saying this cannot go ahead, this is Orwellian hate speech.
Do you want to just let us know what exactly has been proposed in Ireland?

Yeah, well, for sure, you're absolutely right, Peter, to refer to the 1989 Hate Speech Act, because that was actually very good legislation.
It is still 100% perfect legislation for what they claim may be a problem, because it is quite powerful.
It's been used, I believe, 50 times plus.
And if you go out and make hate speech that could cause injury or cause hatred towards people or minorities, yada, yada, yada, they can go after you. No problem.
So the law is there. It's perfectly functional. Needs no upgrade.
What they brought out, it seems to be, I don't know, a Soros, an NGO coming down from the UN, maybe using Ireland as a test case for the most extreme madness that they're willing to try out in the test bed of Ireland.
But what's in it is just lunatic. Now, people listening, they know it's terrible and it's great to hear Newsweek featured it. And it is, of course, Orwellian.
But the extent to which it's insane, I can't even believe the bad guys want this or wrote this.
So essentially, there's layers of madness. One is that they don't define hate speech really at all.
And Michael McDowell, the former Attorney General in Ireland, was fantastic in the Irish Parliament questioning the Justice Minister on this point, it's not defined.
And he said, I've heard the reason discussed for not defining hate speech was it could make it more difficult to convict people.
And he said, that's the point.
It should be difficult to convict in these kinds of matters, so it should be defined, so you get the right guy.
So that's one point, It's not defined. There's around 10 groups, arbitrary, that they've listed out, like traveling people, and trans, and sexual, and gender, all this nonsense, none of whom has a problem anymore with hate speech.
There is no far right in Ireland worth a toss.
None of these groups have any real issue, right? So that's the other layer, not defining.
And the other thing is that they've put in that a single guard, based on someone whispering in his ear, can get a local, very low-level court warrant and come into your house and take everything, anything and everything. It's like, wow.
It can be diaries, it can be phones, it can be computers. They could take them for weeks, I would guess.
And if you don't give a PIN number, that's also listed as an offence.
If you say, I don't know the PIN for that, it's an old phone, that's an offence with six months in prison potentially and a big fine.
That's another insanity.
And when they take it, if they find anything under the undefined hate speech kind of thing, right, they can say, well, okay, that's private.
You wrote this down. You could write a diary and you could say, oh, I hate this group and I don't like that group and I think they should be thrown out. Whatever you want, which you're entitled to.
Of course, you're entitled to write that stuff. I wouldn't agree with it, but if you believe that, go ahead. Keep it to yourself.
It is up to you to prove to a judge that you would never in the future have shared that.
So it's guilty until proven innocent has been put in this.
It is thought crime. It is 1984. It is minority report.
Remember the movie with Tom Cruise? They see that you will commit a crime in the future using futuristic technology and they come and arrest you.
It's like that but much worse because your private writings, memes, God knows what's on your computer from stuff you've downloaded or had sent to you.
You have to prove you would not in the future share that.
I mean, it is just beyond notes, hopefully, you know, well, you know already.
It's just insane. I keep using the word insane for this because I'm blown away, even me after three years of COVID.
People need to understand that. It is insane. There's no other word.

Has this come in, I mean, the UK have obviously got the online safety bill.
That's another issue. And then the EU passed a bill, proposed a bill, which now passed just days later.
But this, you're right, it's difficult to understand when legislation exists to tackle a so-called crime or injustice.
And that's already there and everyone says that can be used and there's no issue with it being used.
And then something else is brought in place, supposedly to correct a problem that isn't addressed and yet it is.
And it is this confusion, I guess, and of course, we don't have the media reporting this or asking why.
It's simply, well, are you for hate?
I'm not for hate, therefore you want this bill.
I mean, talk to us about the pushback on this and has it been scrutinized at all?

Yeah, there's no scrutiny at all.
I mean, basically, we know now, and it's not even controversial, I think, recently a TD or an MEP, an Irish MEP was asked, oh, what do you think of coming back to Ireland, back to Irish politics and the Dáil?
And he said, well, no, and he casually let a cat out of the bag.
And he said in the interview on record, he said people don't realize that over 70% of legislation comes from Europe, down to Ireland. So he said, to be honest, I'm better off over here, because that's where the control is. He didn't say control, but he said the first piece.
And that's it. So essentially, I would say this is the simple way to view it now.
Over the last couple of decades, increasingly, and now it's largely complete, when people go into politics, first of all, people got to remember the skill that brings you into politics is the opposite of technical, mathematical, logical.
You go in there with so-called people skills. You know the type, right? So they go in there and they're kind of useless technically.
Anyone can fool them, even though they're cunning. Anyone can fool them technically.
And with legal matters, will fool them. So the people that go into politics now, especially in Ireland, we're like a vassal state of EU, UN, WEF.
You know, we're really bad. That's why we had the longest lockdown in Europe.
So they go in anyway and they quickly find out, political people find out where the power is. Like a lady said years ago about Washington, when you go into the Senate in Washington, an old guy said to her, you got to lean to the green.
And he didn't mean environmentalism, he meant the dollar, you got to lean to the big guys, the money, the lobbyists, if you want to be successful.
So in Ireland, they go in, they quickly find out it's all about the EU and keeping the big boys happy, and the UN and the WEF.
And if you get invited to Davos, oh my God, that's the pinnacle of Irish political success.
So you get the idea. So when it came to the Dáil, this legislation, they all just said, oh yeah, yeah, great. Oh, hate, love.
Oh, we're all lovey-dovey. Oh, trans, you know, Ukraine, all this stuff.
So all the politicians just signed it off.
Didn't even read it. If they read page 10 and 11 and they had a brain, they'd say, oh my god, but they didn't.
You know they didn't read it. They were all told it's great and they all signed it.
And then when it was coming up to the Senate and then it would go to the President, then people began to get wind of it and began to talk about it.
And then it became a problem. And then Elon Musk began to talk about it and said, what the hell's going on in Ireland?
And then they started and saying, oh, he's right wing, he's an anti-Semite.
There are politicians judging Elon Musk.
It's like an ant judging God.
It's just crazy.
So also, I think it was someone connected to Trump, not Trump himself, made comments on how crazy it was. And then he did a big article, oh, Trump.
Trump doesn't want it, because they know people think Trump's bad.
It was propaganda to the power of 10, because they wanted it true and the media wanted it true. You know, the media all wanted it true.
So luckily the Senate actually, it didn't go past and it got delayed.
You know, that's all they could do. They delayed it. And then shockingly based on the stabbings of some poor children, actually migrant children, I believe.
They used the anger in the public from the gross, excessive, uncontrolled migration in the last year or two. There's anger.
75% of Irish people or more in a Red Sea official poll said immigration has gone way too far, uncontrolled.
It needs to be pulled back in control.
So the majority in the country believes that.
But the anger that's there in the country, smaller percentage of people are very angry. and a bunch of hoodlums caused a riot. They smashed windows, burned buses.
They didn't beat anyone up and they didn't go after any migrants.
They did a smash and grab spree on the back of public sentiment.
And with the children being stabbed, it was an opportunity, it's happened before.
Nothing to do with far right, nothing to do with political ideology.
It was opportunistic from a bunch of hoodlums in hoodies.
And the video showed that. and the government actually used that problem that they caused, right?
They then tried to flip truth upside down and use the problem to ram the insane law through.
You couldn't make it up unless you knew how loathsome, low-life's our politicians are and how utterly controlled they are from the NGOs and all the other groups up top. It is just shocking, right?

Well, I want to go down the Irish politics side, but you need a catalyst in the UK, the catalyst for the online safety bill was the stabbing and murder of David Amess MP and that immediately everyone came out and said we need this online safety bill.
Even with that individual was possibly radicalised in his local mosque but that's a conversation you weren't allowed to have so we'll just focus on.
We've seen the issue there in Ireland and the government have not wasted the opportunity to jump on that. I was even looking at that and thinking, is this contrived?
I mean, governments need a catalyst to push forward. And if something happens, they can point and say, look, we told you so.
This is why it's needed. And everyone comes together.
I mean, what were your thoughts on how that happened? And has that been the main catalyst or have other things happened to push it forward?

Yeah, there was talk of, you know, there's always talk of kind of false flag and don't get me wrong, there's a ton of false flag and there's a ton of Hegelian kind of mechanisms that have been used since all of human history, problem, reaction, solution.
You create a problem, essentially, you then use propaganda to get a big reaction to it.
And then you come in with your pre ordained solution and everyone goes, yeah, we'll take it. So COVID's a classic example of that.
A lab created gain-of-function virus.
It comes out. They see that it's got a little bit of pathology to it or pathological effect. It's going to kill older people mainly.
And they big it up. And then they say they have a solution, the vaccine.
So there's a lot of that. This one here, I really think, because I'm a logic and data guy and I go on probabilities. That's the centre of my universe.
The overwhelming probability, I would say, that guy has not worked, I believe, in 20 years since he came here, the person who did the stabbing, and probably has all kinds of issues.
And I think they've even referred in some articles to some of that indirectly.
They don't want to identify him.
I think that was just a happening. And we saw it earlier, a girl was stabbed by, again, a migrant who had issues.
And even locally in my area, a similar thing occurred a few years ago, a very tragic case with a family.
So these things happen, you know, when migrants come to places, sometimes they're under pressure, they don't have the language, they develop issues.
So I think that just did kind of happen.
But the exploiting of it, well, like I said, is just criminal.
And the reason it blew up, if that was a very rare occurrence and it just happened, and it wasn't after a year or two of increasing public discomfort, like the poll said, they know that the towns around Ireland, little towns, are getting stuffed with migrants.
And they can see they're young males mainly.
They're not women and children from Ukraine, come on. I mean, down in South East Wexford, there was a nursing home being built for a community of 1,200.
And a couple of weeks ago, it transpired that suddenly it's not being built.
It's being built in a different direction for 170 young male migrants, young male migrants, unmarried.
And they're looking at bringing it up to 400 over time. Now, a thousand people marched and of course the media all sniffed and sneered at them like they're far right.
It's their community. It's insane.
I mean, the numbers that came in in the last six or 12 months is like 100k and the graph of the numbers coming in went through the roof.
And O'Gorman, I think the minister last year, he did this, it's on the record, sent out a tweet, not in Ukrainian.
In Ukrainian, Georgian, and African languages.
And he basically said, Ireland's open. You'll have a house within four months.
We get you a phone. We get you loads of money. Whatever. I don't know what was in it.
But it was translated into all African languages and everything. So he's on the record.
They want to flood the zone. And the reasons for that go back to the Pan-European Union in the 30s and speeches in 2009, I think, by, who was that CEO of Goldman Sachs who became a big UN guy, not Robinson, forget his name, an Irish guy originally.
He gave a huge speech and he said it outright.
We have to destroy nationalism. We have to destroy sovereignty in the EU countries.
We have to break it down. And the mechanism, the best mechanism for that, besides pouring US junk television in, right?
And phones, you know, the best thing is flood in very different people, ideally young males, and blend the country into a blob so we can get a big blob in Europe without any national identities.
So they're actually destroying diversity because we had all these countries that you could freely travel to and see their culture. and then you come back home and you talk about it, that's actually diversity.
They're all peaceful, all lovely, but they want to end diversity.
They just want to make a blob because a blob can easily be translated into a super state or a China-style society.
Very hard to do it when you've got identifiable nationalities in Europe.
It's so simple, isn't it? This is a hundred-year-old brainstorm strategy that's clearly being deployed recently.
Big scale. That's it, no racism. In fact, last thing I'll say, sorry I'm on a rant here, it's morning time, but Peter, the last thing I'd say, and this is so important for people to know and understand, The people who are using minorities from other countries as cattle, literally using them as pawns in their chess game to get their globalist Europe and globalist West, they are the ultimate racists because they have absolute scorn and contempt for poor people from all over the world that they're forcing into countries and creating difficult situations where there may be, you know, certain amounts of racism stoked and provoked, you know, like a hornet's nest, keep shoving in people, they don't have accommodation, our homeless can't get accommodation, they've ignored them for decades, and now they're shoving in hundreds of thousands with, we already have an accommodation problem, what's going to happen?
But the people driving this, they are the racists.
I am the opposite of racist, my record is clear, they'd love to call me one, but they can't because I have a full record on social media and forever.
Absolutely the opposite. In fact, I've often shared anti-racial movies and films on my Twitter, like Kenneth Branagh, 2001 conspiracy, it's called, about Wannsee in Germany in 1942 or three.
I'm clearly an anti-racist. They hate that.
But that said, I know racists when I see them and the people driving the policy are racists.

And of course there's nothing you can say or push back if you're called names which is this legislation about offending and finding offense and if someone has been offended you cannot prove that in a court that, you cannot prove your feelings in court and of course when someone calls you whatever, racist, xenophobe, Islamophobe, the list goes on, you can argue and you can push back but it's already been decided by whatever individual has said.
They have decided and therefore you are because they have spoken.
And that declaration of speech, you know, truth goes out the window.
It's the issue on pronouns. If someone wants to use a pronoun then they define that person who is a man, is a woman and that must be true.
And that kind of removal of truth, not only in this legislation but I guess across Europe for all the hate speech which is simply if someone finds offense then it is decided that a crime has been committed.

It's beyond absurdity but also it's very malign and clever.
So the people I refer to are driving this as a geopolitical crucial strategy this is not small stuff, that's why it's getting so much funding and backing. it's very important for broader globalist.
Kind of government desires and to make ultimately, we won't get into detail, the intention is to translate the UN into the world government or for the West.
The UN is being built and built and built and we can see the insanity coming from Guterres, the head of the UN.
We're now global boiling. We're no longer warming, all nonsense.
The UN is being teed up.
So there's a lot put into this thing and hate speech because it is important because free speech increasingly could cause a real problem for basically plans that have been grown beautifully for 70 or 80 years since post-World War II.
So, you know, too big to fail.
They can't let all of the plans of geopolitical, you know, structure and infrastructure that have been built for a half century, they can't let it fail because people all start becoming aware of it and talking about it, that's why there's this extreme kind of insane zeal to get in the laws, because they're important, and people need to realize that.
And you say you can call. Yeah, once you call someone a racist, the judge is going to roll over.
That's the sick thing. We saw in COVID, several people brought very good cases, and they assigned a lower-level judge to check if the cases were appropriate to bring forward in the system.
I didn't realize they could do this. They did.
So there were mask challenges and other challenges.
This judge, she went in and looked at everyone. No, I don't think that's, no, that's not required.
One judge threw them all out before they even got in the system.
So you know what will happen. If the government don't like someone, they'll try to nail them on this law, and the judge will be in the pocket.
The judges now are no longer really independent. We saw that in COVID.
They know where the wind's blowing, and they do their job. A lot of them are appointed.
So that's institutional corruption gone crazy. And another one I just thought when you were talking, Peter, there was a communist activist, a very significant person.
I can't remember his name, but back in America before the McCarthy era, when America was big, there were a lot of activists who wanted America to go communisto or fascististo.
And one of them was caught with, not emails at that time, but circulars to all their activists.
And he said to them, and he was right, very clever. he said always call our detractors, our opponents, always call them a fascist.
Now he said be careful, don't call someone a fascist if it can blow back on you.
In other words, don't always do it, but whenever you can, call them a fascist.
And he said if we keep repeating this on an individual, after a while the people will largely just come to believe it's true.
And he said, it's the most dirty word and the dirty label you can put in someone right now.
So use it. And you can see now that that advice was excellent, but it turned out it all failed in America until recently.
Now they've got Biden and all the rest. They're getting, they're getting to communism.
But yeah, exactly that. They know that racism is powerful. if you can make it even stick a bit and get your media to keep repeating it, people will assume, well that's the racist guy.
I mean, it's shocking, it's criminal, but this is the game they play.

Yeah, you talked about the 70 year.
I mean, I'm still blown away having grown up in Dublin, Limerick, first like nine years of my life.
It was rough, but actually it was conservative as a country.
You had Fianna Gael, Fianna Fáil, polar opposites in theory.
Now they're all together, the union party.
Has this been sped up simply with the bailout after the financial crash, with Europe then calling the shots?
Because if you look at Italy and Greece, they've kind of held on to their identity.
And Ireland has always been known for a strong identity. That seems to have gone out the window.
Obviously, COVID has sped things up, and that's part of it. But is it the crash? Is it that Ireland is now beholden to Europe because of that or talk to us about that because the collapse in Irish society has been unbelievable.

Yeah, I think it's not so much the bailout more as the symptom of the problem.
I mean the fact that Ireland kowtowed and the EU, the EU flooded the zone with money.
They told Ireland flood the zone and the little Irish went off and they flooded the zone for the EU overlords and it suited them because there's money everywhere and everyone was happy.
And then the piper came to be paid, and they went with cap in hand, and they gave away all our money to the bondholders.
So I think Ireland back then was just a biatch, really.
It wasn't that they got them then, they'd already got them.
So I think it's been many decades, Ireland, maybe partially because of the history of the British rule, the Irish became culturally doff the cap to the big man.
They might grumble, but they doff the cap. So Ireland, over the last 30 or 40 years, we saw it with all the referendums.
They were rammed through or run several times to get through.
The Irish intelligentsia, politicos, Europe was the big boy.
And they dropped to their knees for Europe all the way.
And then they took in the corporations, did the double dutch, the tax thing. They're allowing them to get away with 1% effective tax rate.
So they played the kind of beggar to the American corporations.
And I think over 50% of our GDP now is biotech and pharma.
So we're just kind of biatches for the pharma sector. So you can see Ireland has made itself into a kind of a rent boy on the global market.
Let's be honest. It's sad, but that's the way it is.
But people are waking up to that and begin to realize, my God, our whole echelon of politicians are actually, by definition, essentially traitors.
Because we're voting for them and they're immediately giving their allegiance straight up the chain to forces outside the country. So they're actually technically traitors.
So I think that's kind of what happened to Ireland and it showed in the longest lockdown in Europe, it shows in the hate speech laws, a test bed for this craziness.
It shows in every interview when you see these goons we have up the top.
It's just disgusting, like, right?
And was that the total question about why Ireland?
Did I miss something there? 

No, it's just, I find it curious, having grown up there, first nine, ten years of my life, and just seeing that collapse, and you kind of think, that's not the Ireland that I knew growing up, and then you realise it's not.
It's changed beyond all recognition, with no media pushback, no political pushback, And then if you don't have Fine Gael or Fianna fail, you've got Sinn Féin, you're thinking, hmm, could this thing get worse?

Okay, I'll tell you something about Sinn Féin. I mean, Sinn Féin during COVID, the government did the most insane, crazy-ass, unscientific, damaging, nonsensical measures, the worst in Europe almost.
And Sinn Féin were screaming at them to do more. I mean, I'm not joking.
They were literally screaming at the government, saying, you're not keeping us safe.
And it was the same in all the issues. So Sinn Féin are an unmitigated disaster.
They're the opposite of opposition.
So they play this pantomime. And I think there's a hashtag, politics is panto.
And it's so true nowadays.
It's a fricking pantomime. And Sinn Féin go up and argue with the government, and the government argue back with Sinn Féin. It's all a joke. It's all a club.
At the end of the day, they are all aligned with each other, really, at the Dáil bar and behind the scenes.
And the reason that they're all aligned, this is the important thing, I've said it already, they all understand there's big power structures in the world, and we kow tow to them.
Therefore, there's no point arguing amongst each other except as a pantomime for our voters.
That's it. I mean, it sounds kind of conspiracy theory. It's basic geopolitics.
Now that we have a world structure of World Economic Forum, UN, EU, and I mean, recently Professor Werner, who invented quantitative easing in 95, I interviewed him.
He's an expert in central banking and all the political. He worked for the Japanese government during their financial challenges as a direct advisor, chief advisor.
Learned Japanese, fluent German, fluent English, master's, PhDs from Oxford.
Brilliant man. But he told me something that I actually didn't realize.
He said, you know the European Parliament has no real power. It's a talk shop.
The European Commission decides the laws, the Commission. And the Commission are essentially not elected.
And he said, you know what other region in the last 100 years had that exact structure, and they've almost taken it from them?
Soviet Union. They have a parliament, people aren't too aware, and they have a Politburo, a commission, and it's the same structure.
The parliament, you let them all talk and pretend that they've got some control, but the party decides.
He said, essentially, and he said, one or two or a couple of Russian historians, have noted this in the early 2000s, academically, that fascinatingly, Europe is recreating the Soviet model.
And people don't know that. And of course, under that model, the EU Commission, who are diplomatic immunity, no army or police can enter their grounds under any condition, a bit like central banks, they decide, the parliament then, And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, everyone, blah, blah, gets very high salaries, tax-free.
All the people from the countries go over there and suck on the teat of Europe.
They have a great time, meals for everyone, best of steaks. And they go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that's that. And then the countries, of course, they just doff the cap increasingly.
You look at Hungary, they say, we don't want to do this.
And if you go against Europe, they take the whole European media, and they feckin' bury you.
They bury you in accusations of far-right, nationalistic.
They take away all the EU money. They cause you pain.
So this is what we have. We have a new Soviet structure that wants to become a Chinese social credit-style full totalitarian structure.
It's just what it wants. The organism of the geopolitical top strata in Europe, they want the full power.
It's just natural, it's in the DNA now of the whole structure, it's not any one individual or one bad guy.
Yeah, it's driven primarily from the late 50s by Rockefeller Brothers Fund and all the other bad guys and NGOs and CFR and all these groups and the Club of Rome, they're all pushing one way and that's it, it's simple guys, it's not a big conspiracy theory, it's just geopolitics has gone the wrong way for us.
And a lot of bad guys have ended at the top.
That's all. Happened in Rome.
Jesus! 

Yeah, and you see pushback across Europe with the rise of populist parties.
Ireland and the UK sadly are sitting on their backsides with now, but that's a whole lot.
I just want to just finish off on where you think this, the bill will go.
It's been, what my understanding was, been in the Senate since maybe July, so and it was passed up.
It's been sitting there now with more scrutiny.
Where does it go? Because the police obviously will have to be sent out to police all these tweets which I thought they could do under the legislation but this is darker.
Is there a way of turning it around so we just accuse everyone on the left of hurtful comments and the police must investigate?
I mean is there requirement for an investigation. I'm just thinking of how you push back because this is going to pass through. I can't see any way it stopped.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure, Peter.
Yes, they say we need a true by Christmas and all this talk, but they're not divulging what's actually happening.
So I'm not sure what's actually happening on the ground mind you a very senior politician secretly met with me and a team of doctors, surgeons and businessmen back in September 2020.
Very senior I obviously won't name in private and pretty much told us that most the politicians knew most of what I was sharing about COVID but he said, no everyone knows you don't talk about it and you support the narrative. So there's that level of institutional corruption, and I'm sure now there's similar stuff going on.
A lot of the senators will have found out from their bloody daughters from social media how insane this is, but they'll know, shit, this is important.
It comes from the big boys up top. We can't let them down.
So I don't know exactly what's going on. I'm still hoping absolutely that with the focus on it, that they'll have to hold back their nonsense about these riots being a reason to bring in this insane law.
I presume they're thinking, hmm, that's not washing.
So I hope it's not inevitable. If it does happen, we got a massive problem.
There's no question about that, because once it's in, it is a tool for tyranny waiting there like a nuclear weapon. sitting there on the statute of books with no place there, a criminal law, criminal in its very drafting.
Criminal in its drafting, that's how bad it is. It's bad, but I guess, yeah, possibly be able to use it against itself.
But you know, the judiciary and all of these bent politicians will be striving to throw out any cases involving it for leftists or nut jobs.
And they'll be hyper trying to influence judges and police to use it on the people the government doesn't like.
God, it's very sinister, isn't it? It's literally a tool of government to suppress people who don't agree with the government, which is treason in my mind.
I mean, it might not be the exact definition. I don't care. It's treason.

Well, we're all following this closely and praying and hoping that actually it is stopped.
Ivor, great to have you on. Obviously, people can find you @FatEmperor on Twitter and thefatemperor.com.
They can see all the videos, interviews up there on the website.
Really appreciate your time today. Thanks so much for joining us.

Thanks so much, Peter. And if people are wondering, I'm down south in an undisclosed location, but that's me fox there.
I picked it up. It's from an old country estate in Wexford that was stripped.
Guy had it for 10 years, got it for 200 euro.
Beautiful case, probably 100 years old plus.
So anyway, bit of trivia. 

That's probably a hate crime against foxes.
But anyway, we'll leave it there. Thanks, Ivor.

Good luck, Peter. Bye now.