What does #1 in innovation even mean?

If you live in the Phoenix area, there’s no way you can miss that ubiquitous ranking. On buses and billboards, it shouts: ASU is the #1 school in the U.S. for innovation. But what does that even mean and why should it matter to an ASU student? In this episode, Molly and Ben talk to Jonah Hrkal — the ASU student host of the podcast Innovation Happens — about innovation at ASU and how it adds up to amazing opportunities for students.