With both hosts “opting outside”—to borrow a term from REI—for July 4th, we take a look back at three impactful interviews with retail visionaries. We begin our show by talking to Drew Ann Long, creator of Caroline’s Cart—the first-ever cart designed for the special needs population. Then, Dave Munson joins us to talk about the genesis of his company, Saddleback Leather. Finally, we catch up with grocery industry veteran Ron Rhodes, who discusses his companies’ efforts to compete with much larger competitors by beefing up his grocery’s digital game.