"Which would you rather have? Mediocre innovation or a direct descent from Celtic culture?" Frank Zappa, commenting on what he saw as the difference between U2 and The Chieftains in 1992. This is less of an interview than a world exclusive chat I had with Zappa in his home in the Hollywood Hills in 1992. I was attending the Chieftains recording session with Tom Jones, in Zappa's studio, and covering the Chieftains' time in LA, which included a visit, the night before, to the Grammy Awards show, at which they won a Grammy for the album, Another Country. During the session someone mentioned that U2 were more highly rated in Ireland than the Chieftains and this chat - recorded on a cheap cassette because I wasn't meant to be working as a journalist at the session - arose when Paddy Moloney, of the Chieftains, asked Frank to give me a quote elaborating on Zappa's claim that "there is no comparison" between U2 and the Chieftains. We also discussed Zappa's music, and in the end, his health. He died a year or so later.