13. On Spiritual Leadership: Reflections on Being Formed

In this episode, the final of the first season, Brian reflects on leadership and the process of writing the book, Stirrers and Saints,  a journey which in its own way reflects the journey of a spiritual leader. Accompanied by Jon and Jen, they discuss the need for good leaders, the impact that good leaders can have - and have had - upon the world, and the call to take spiritual formation seriously. The world needs leaders who both stirrers and saints (and servants, shepherds, sages, seers, and stewards...and sculptors)...

(But don't worry, the next season starts NEXT WEEK)