We all know dreams are normal but as they are not understood, they are considered paranormal. Our guest's book 'Origin of Dreams' explains how and why; so now dreaming is understandable. Our guest is a therapist dealing with all mental problems and he found that applying his understanding of dreaming to psychological problems enabled successful treatment by the use of hypnosis and allied techniques. My own interest in this has led to a description of what trance really is, and why it evolved. Trance is the name we give to the way we we inhibit conscious thinking about instinctive actions; which evolved as a necessity 35,000 years ago when we began to think consciously.