We Tried Our Best: A Conversation With Our Sons

In a very special (and very real) episode, Christine and Saphira welcome their sons, Ronan and Luca, to the mic. The boys reflect on what it’s been like growing up with moms who parent a little differently, from long leashes and co-working yoga spaces to feminist marches and carefully curated snack policies.

They quiz each other to see how well they really know one another, share guilty pleasures and embarrassing moments, and open up about the mental load of high school and growing up in households run by ambitious women. It’s a funny, vulnerable, and insightful look at motherhood, identity, and learning to let go as your kids grow up (and start calling you out on your Instagram habits).

This one’s for the parents—and the kids who turned us into them.