The latest podcast with Brian Micklethwait rather put me in mind of another podcast I recorded some 9 years ago with Antoine Clarke. This was ostensibly about the occupation of the Ruhr in 1923 but it quickly became about the whole history of Franco-German animosity. And none the worse it was for that!
Anyway, after a bit of rootling around for it I eventually found it. And then I found it again here. Well worth a listen I’d say.
I may republish some more of these in due course.