#TheCounterPosition Episode 212 - Kenn Cramer of St. Paul Mission

In this episode Andrew sits down with his old friend Kenn Cramer, founder of St. Raphael Counseling, and current Director of Parish Life for St. Paul Mission on the Ft. Belknap Indian Reservation in Montana. Hear how Andrew’s man crush on Kenn turned into a friendship, how Kenn used his head to win his wife, the structure and history of the reservation in America, life and ministry on the reservation, and finally, they open a can of worms about the married priesthood and ministry in the modern world, that they don't have time to wrap up.