Hal and Julian talk about villains, when to bring them into the narrative and how to play them! They also explain the ideas of the Hero's ordeal and the Improvisor's ordeal and how you can combine them!
Into and Outro music by Sebastian Hochman: https://open.spotify.com/track/1iktOn8ElJkhGSRXI7Afy7?si=b45514d69dc146e9