Hello our fellow humans, hope you all have been well. Today we are joined by Refilwe Nkomo and Michaela Limberis. They are absolutely our favourite people who deeply care for our art community. They both wear many hats including, but not limited to artist, curator, documenter, and educator. Refilwe is currently serving as the Director to the Visual Arts Network of South Africa (VANSA) and Michaela is currently one to the Directors of Art Meets. In this episode we get into the chats about building community and what it means to have each other's back. Go have a listen and tell us about your community and the people whose backs you have!