Frankie Cox on eating for impact, changing habits and upcycling.

This week, we sit down with Frankie Cox. While some chefs are playing Checkers, Frankie's playing Chess. Frankie is a visionary food specialist and founder of Green On. She thinks global and acts local with her unique approach to food, health and community sustainability.

Frankie and Luke compare notes about running sustainable cafes that use food, conversation and community to have a positive impact, and we talk about what it takes for someone to change their habits.

We also get into the tricky topic of recycling, up-cycling and down-cycling materials that might be better off designed out of products altogether.