How do we get people to start, stay and lead? The Late Late Show with Natalie Maher

Natalie is joined by Kellie Brown, a teacher, educator and senior leader in London Secondary Schools for over 23 years. We reminisce on our experiences of being at the same Secondary School and discuss Kellie's doctorate in education. Her thesis is a reflection of her work on the issues around the recruitment and retention of teachers and the intersectional challenges faced by women in educational leadership.