81. Professor Greg Barton - Understanding radicalisation, extremism and terrorism

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Today, I’m speaking with Professor Greg Barton, who is a Research Professor in Global Islamic Politics at Deakin University. Greg is one of Australia’s leading scholars of radicalisation, terrorism and countering violent extremism. He is frequently interviewed by the Australian and international media on these topics as well as on Indonesia and the politics of the Muslim world.

He joins me today for a deep dive into radicalisation, extremism, and terrorism as well as their causes and potential solutions.

Some of the topics we explored are:

• Greg’s background and research in countering violent extremism (CVE)
• Defining radicalisation, extremism, and terrorism
• The explanation why Russia is not designated a terrorist state
• Terrorism as a method
• Dangers of ‘thought policing’
• How to deal with extremism before it becomes violent
• Explaining the ‘Push, Pull, Personal factors’ model to understand radicalisation
• Systemic hate and its potential to fuel hateful extremism, violent extremism, and conflict violence
• Similarities between recruiting into a military and a terrorist group
• The role of social media in radicalisation
• How online radicalisation occurs
• Combating extremist propaganda
• Effectiveness of counter-terrorism measures
• The short-sightedness of military solutions to combat terrorism
• How to prevent violent extremism
• The Indonesian success in combating violent extremism as a case study
• The growing threat of far-right extremism
• Authoritarian populism as a key motivator behind far-right extremism
• The potential risks of military veterans joining far-right groups
• Pragmatic reflection about the risk to democracy in the US
• Greg’s biggest fears for the next decade

 

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