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A betrayed, bruised, beaten body Resurrected

Apr 5th, 2026 10:00 PM

Happy Resurrection Day!Dr. Mo continues to expound upon Philippians 3:10.  She focuses on the 2nd part of that verse by pondering what does it mean for us to know the power of resurrection. How do we move from understanding the close association with Jesus and suffering to knowing the power of rising to life? Especially when we have suffered betrayal, bruising, and beatings, both psychologically and physically. Tune in to this episode as we think about God’s invitation to rise to life and to know His power after we have experienced traumas and sufferings in our lives.Information for Dr. Mohttps://www.drmoniquesmithgadson.com/Link to order “Finding Hope in A Dark Place”:https://lexhampress.com/search?query=Finding%20Hope%20in%20a%20Dark%20Place%3A%20Facing%20Loneliness%2C%20Depression%2C%20and%20Anxiety%20with%20the%20Power%20of%20Grace&sortBy=Relevance&limit=30&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=allhttps://www.amazon.com/Finding-Hope-Dark-Place-Loneliness/dp/1683596358/ref=rvi_sccl_7/138-1785751-1148333?pd_rd_w=decCb&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=GMEBCA5ZB54MM98HHN5F&pd_rd_wg=pwctW&pd_rd_r=0cf054c6-aedd-427d-ac2a-563757407228&pd_rd_i=1683596358&psc=1Follow us on social media: https://instagram.com/drmoniquesmithgadson?igshid=1bmt2hei1j6i8Support And The Church Said:Cash App:  https://cash.app/$andthechurchsaid

The Anticipation, Anxiety, and Anguish of Jesus

Mar 29th, 2026 11:00 PM

Happy Sunday! On this last Sunday in March, Palm Sunday, we are culminating our anniversary celebration of six years of the  “And The Church Said” podcast!Dr. Mo has been celebrating six years of God’s faithfulness to the work of the podcast! Today, we continue to discuss Dr. Mo’s hesitation to do the work of the podcast. She discusses how her hesitation was rooted in social rejection and fear and how she has come to understand her close association with the sufferings of Jesus. Dr. Mo reads from Philippians 3:10 and Luke 22:39-46. She discusses when we anticipate doing the will of God we can experience anxiety and anguish. Especially when we are doing really difficult things. Just like Jesus as He prepared to go to the Cross. Tune in to this episode as we think about how God might be inviting us into fellowship with Him through our sufferings. Information for Dr. Gadson https://www.drmoniquesmithgadson.com/Link to order “Finding Hope in A Dark Place”:https://lexhampress.com/search?query=Finding%20Hope%20in%20a%20Dark%20Place%3A%20Facing%20Loneliness%2C%20Depression%2C%20and%20Anxiety%20with%20the%20Power%20of%20Grace&sortBy=Relevance&limit=30&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=allhttps://www.amazon.com/Finding-Hope-Dark-Place-Loneliness/dp/1683596358/ref=rvi_sccl_7/138-1785751-1148333?pd_rd_w=decCb&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=GMEBCA5ZB54MM98HHN5F&pd_rd_wg=pwctW&pd_rd_r=0cf054c6-aedd-427d-ac2a-563757407228&pd_rd_i=1683596358&psc=1Follow us on social media: https://instagram.com/drmoniquesmithgadson?igshid=1bmt2hei1j6i8Support And The Church Said:Cash App:  https://cash.app/$andthechurchsaid

When Fear and Rejection Keep Us from the Will of God in our lives

Mar 22nd, 2026 9:00 PM

Happy Sunday! We are still celebrating six years of the  “And The Church Said” podcast! 🎉🎉Dr. Mo is celebrating six years of God’s faithfulness to the work of the podcast! Today, we continue to discuss Dr. Mo’s hesitation to do the work of the podcast. She discusses how her hesitation was rooted in social rejection and fear. Dr. Mo reads from Exodus 3:6-12 and compares her journey with Moses as they both question God by asking “who am I”.  She quotes Dr. Aimie Apigian in her book the “Biology of Trauma” as she explains how our fears and past traumas can cause us to not feel adequate to do the work of God. Dr. Aimee states “emotional pain that feels unbearable is processed as an inescapable life threat. Social rejection and shame can exceed our capacity just as quickly as the physical dangers of an oncoming car.”Tune in to this episode as we think about how God called Moses back to himself, back to God, and back to the place where he fled because of traumatic life experiences. During this season of Lent, think about how God might be inviting you in ways that seem confusing but are possibly redeeming. Information for Dr. Gadson https://www.drmoniquesmithgadson.com/Link to order “Finding Hope in A Dark Place”:https://lexhampress.com/search?query=Finding%20Hope%20in%20a%20Dark%20Place%3A%20Facing%20Loneliness%2C%20Depression%2C%20and%20Anxiety%20with%20the%20Power%20of%20Grace&sortBy=Relevance&limit=30&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=allhttps://www.amazon.com/Finding-Hope-Dark-Place-Loneliness/dp/1683596358/ref=rvi_sccl_7/138-1785751-1148333?pd_rd_w=decCb&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=GMEBCA5ZB54MM98HHN5F&pd_rd_wg=pwctW&pd_rd_r=0cf054c6-aedd-427d-ac2a-563757407228&pd_rd_i=1683596358&psc=1Follow us on social media: https://instagram.com/drmoniquesmithgadson?igshid=1bmt2hei1j6i8Support And The Church Said:Cash App:  https://cash.app/$andthechurchsaid

Is it Disobedience or A Survival Response?

Mar 15th, 2026 11:00 PM

Happy Sunday! We are still celebrating six years of the  “And The Church Said” podcast! 🎉🎉Dr. Mo is celebrating six years of God’s faithfulness to the work of the podcast! Today, we continue to discuss Dr. Mo’s hesitation to do the work of the podcast. She shares with us her journey of discovering that the hesitation was rooted in fear and a trauma response as opposed to disobedience. Dr. Mo reads from Exodus 3:11-14 and compares her journey with Moses as they both question God by asking “who am I”.  She also discusses Dr. Aimie Apigian’s groundbreaking research in the “Biology of Trauma”.Tune in to this episode as we thank God for choosing us, encouraging us, and healing us by saying He still loves us by inviting us into the work of the ministry although we feel inadequate and unworthy. Information for Dr. Gadson https://www.drmoniquesmithgadson.com/Link to order “Finding Hope in A Dark Place”:https://lexhampress.com/search?query=Finding%20Hope%20in%20a%20Dark%20Place%3A%20Facing%20Loneliness%2C%20Depression%2C%20and%20Anxiety%20with%20the%20Power%20of%20Grace&sortBy=Relevance&limit=30&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=allhttps://www.amazon.com/Finding-Hope-Dark-Place-Loneliness/dp/1683596358/ref=rvi_sccl_7/138-1785751-1148333?pd_rd_w=decCb&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=GMEBCA5ZB54MM98HHN5F&pd_rd_wg=pwctW&pd_rd_r=0cf054c6-aedd-427d-ac2a-563757407228&pd_rd_i=1683596358&psc=1Follow us on social media: https://instagram.com/drmoniquesmithgadson?igshid=1bmt2hei1j6i8Support And The Church Said:Cash App:  https://cash.app/$andthechurchsaid

Celebrating Six Years of the Podcast! Who Am I?

Mar 8th, 2026 10:00 PM

Happy Sunday! We are back in 2026 finally! Happy 6th Birthday to the  “And The Church Said” podcast! 🎉🎉Dr. Mo is celebrating six years of God’s faithfulness to the work of the podcast! Today, we are reflecting on where we have come from last year to this year regarding the podcast. Dr. Mo reads from Exodus 3:11-14 and compares her journey with Moses as they both question God by asking “who am I”. God answers both Moses and Dr. Mo with a resounding response “I AM WHO I AM”!Tune in to this episode as we thank God for His grace, His healing, and His deliverance as we learn some of the reasons we do not follow through on what God asks of us to do. Learn how God might use ways that we would not choose to “thaw” us from our “functional freezes”. Information for Dr. Mohttps://www.drmoniquesmithgadson.com/Link to order “Finding Hope in A Dark Place”:https://lexhampress.com/search?query=Finding%20Hope%20in%20a%20Dark%20Place%3A%20Facing%20Loneliness%2C%20Depression%2C%20and%20Anxiety%20with%20the%20Power%20of%20Grace&sortBy=Relevance&limit=30&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=allhttps://www.amazon.com/Finding-Hope-Dark-Place-Loneliness/dp/1683596358/ref=rvi_sccl_7/138-1785751-1148333?pd_rd_w=decCb&content-id=amzn1.sym.f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_p=f5690a4d-f2bb-45d9-9d1b-736fee412437&pf_rd_r=GMEBCA5ZB54MM98HHN5F&pd_rd_wg=pwctW&pd_rd_r=0cf054c6-aedd-427d-ac2a-563757407228&pd_rd_i=1683596358&psc=1Follow us on social media: https://instagram.com/drmoniquesmithgadson?igshid=1bmt2hei1j6i8Support And The Church Said:Cash App:  https://cash.app/$andthechurchsaid

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