The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

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Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you're passionate about the future of...
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Episode List

Is Your Team Ready for AI-Driven Modernization? | Birgitta Böckeler

Sep 2nd, 2025 12:00 PM

What does it mean to be a developer when AI writes most of the code?On this episode of AI Native Dev, Birgitta Böckeler, Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks, joins Simon Maple to unpack how AI is changing legacy migrations, and why the real value comes from pairing LLMs with proven software engineering practices.They also get into:• why “AI alone” won’t solve legacy modernization• how codemods and deterministic tools amplify AI creativity• the reflex to rewrite vs. the discipline to refactor• why developers need to evolve into managers of AI-driven workflowsAI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Birgitta Böckeler - https://www.linkedin.com/in/birgittaboeckeler/2. Simon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Can AI Really Build Enterprise-Grade Software? | Maor Shlomo & Base44

Aug 26th, 2025 12:00 PM

AI coding is great for demos, but can it handle production apps?On this episode of AI Native Dev, Maor Shlomo, founder of Base44, joins Guy Podjarny to share how he built one of the first “batteries-included” AI app builders and what it reveals about building real software in the age of LLMs.They dive into:• why less complexity helps LLMs perform• how Base44 ships apps with databases and integrations built in• what smaller, high-context teams can do that big ones can’t• the path from vibe coding to agentic applicationsAI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Maor Shlomo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maor-shlomo-1088b4144/2. Guy Podjarny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Transforming Dev Practices with Kiro’s Spec-Driven Tools | Nikhil and Richard

Aug 19th, 2025 12:00 PM

Rapid prototyping is fun, but maintaining it? Not so much. In this episode, Simon Maple is joined by Nikhil Swaminathan, Head of Product and Richard Threlkeld, Principal Engineer at Kiro IDE (AWS), to discuss how spec-driven development moves the focus from writing code to understanding and communicating system behavior, building software that is easy to understand so that developers can maintain code without losing clarity.They also explore:• Kiro’s philosophy on spec-driven development• why specs must be composable documents• how specs enable better review and reasoning around refactorsAI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk about all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. Richard Threlkeld- https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-threlkeld-ba31aa1/2. Nikhil Swaminathan- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilswaminathan/3. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/4. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/5. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Transforming Debugging and Root Cause Detection with Sentry | David Cramer

Aug 12th, 2025 12:00 PM

On this episode of AI Native Dev, David Cramer, co-founder of Sentry, joins Guy Podjarny to talk about what it really takes to ship faster with LLMs built into the workflow, and why over 4 million devs rely on Sentry to do it right.On the docket:• how Sentry’s moat is built on deeply interconnected app data• why David prefers Cursor over Claude• how a cynical mindset kills AI adoption before it beginsAI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development. Connect with us here: 1. David Cramer- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/2. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Why Tracking AI Usage Drives Better Results | Justin Reock & DX

Aug 5th, 2025 12:00 PM

With AI adoption surging across orgs, Justin Reock, CTO at DX, joins Simon Maple to break down the difference between meaningful integration and just chasing trends.They also get into:• two levers of velocity: quality and maintainability.• why measuring real AI impact starts with knowing who’s using it and how• how AI supercharges developer productivity across the SDLCAI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development. Curated Resource of the Week: https://ainativedev.co/1ijConnect with us here: 1. Justin Reock- https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinreock/2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

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