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#539: Catching up with the Python Typing Council

You're adding type hints to your Python code, your editor is happy, autocomplete is working great. But then you switch tools and suddenly there are red squiggles everywhere. Who decides what a float annotation actually means? Or whether passing None where an int is expected should be an error? It turns out there's a five-person council dedicated to exactly these questions -- and two brand-new Rust-based type checkers are raising the bar. On this episode, I sit down with three members of the Python Typing Council -- Jelle Zijlstra, Rebecca Chen, and Carl Meyer -- to learn how the type system is governed, where the spec and the type checkers agree and disagree, and get the council's official advice on how much typing is just enough. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Agentic AI Course Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Carl Meyer: github.com Jelle Zijlstra: jellezijlstra.github.io Rebecca Chen: github.com Typing Council: github.com typing.python.org: typing.python.org details here: github.com ty: docs.astral.sh pyrefly: pyrefly.org conformance test suite project: github.com typeshed: github.com Stub files: mypy.readthedocs.io Pydantic: pydantic.dev Beartype: github.com TOAD AI: github.com PEP 747 – Annotating Type Forms: peps.python.org PEP 724 – Stricter Type Guards: peps.python.org Python Typing Repo (PRs and Issues): github.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #539 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/539 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

#538: Python in Digital Humanities

Digital humanities sounds niche, until you realize it can mean a searchable archive of U.S. amendment proposals, Irish folklore, or pigment science in ancient art. Today I’m talking with David Flood from Harvard’s DARTH team about an unglamorous problem: What happens when the grant ends but the website can’t. His answer, static sites, client-side search, and sneaky Python. Let’s dive in. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Command Book Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guest David Flood: davidaflood.com DARTH: digitalhumanities.fas.harvard.edu Amendments Project: digitalhumanities.fas.harvard.edu Fionn Folklore Database: fionnfolklore.org Mapping Color in History: iiif.harvard.edu Apatosaurus: apatosaurus.io Criticus: github.com github.com/palewire/django-bakery: github.com sigsim.acm.org/conf/pads/2026/blog/artifact-evaluation: sigsim.acm.org Hugo: gohugo.io Water Stories: waterstories.fas.harvard.edu Tsumeb Mine Notebook: tmn.fas.harvard.edu Dharma and Punya: dharmapunya2019.org Pagefind library: pagefind.app django_webassembly: github.com Astro Static Site Generator: astro.build PageFind Python Lib: pypi.org Frozen-Flask: frozen-flask.readthedocs.io Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #538 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/538 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

#537: Datastar: Modern web dev, simplified

You love building web apps with Python, and HTMX got you excited about the hypermedia approach -- let the server drive the HTML, skip the JavaScript build step, keep things simple. But then you hit that last 10%: You need Alpine.js for interactivity, your state gets out of sync, and suddenly you're juggling two unrelated libraries that weren't designed to work together. What if there was a single 11-kilobyte framework that gave you everything HTMX and Alpine do, and more, with real-time updates, multiplayer collaboration out of the box, and performance so fast you're actually bottlenecked by the monitor's refresh rate? That's Datastar. On this episode, I sit down with its creator Delaney Gillilan, core maintainer Ben Croker, and Datastar convert Chris May to explore how this backend-driven, server-sent-events-first framework is changing the way full-stack developers think about the modern web. Episode sponsors Sentry Error Monitoring, Code talkpython26 Command Book Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Delaney Gillilan: linkedin.com Ben Croker: x.com Chris May: everydaysuperpowers.dev Datastar: data-star.dev HTMX: htmx.org AlpineJS: alpinejs.dev Core Attribute Tour: data-star.dev data-star.dev/examples: data-star.dev github.com/starfederation/datastar-python: github.com VSCode: marketplace.visualstudio.com OpenVSX: open-vsx.org PyCharm/Intellij plugin: plugins.jetbrains.com data-star.dev/datastar_pro: data-star.dev gg: discord.gg HTML-ivating your Django web app's experience with HTMX, AlpineJS, and streaming HTML - Chris May: www.youtube.com Senior Engineer tries Vibe Coding: www.youtube.com 1 Billion Checkboxes: checkboxes.andersmurphy.com Game of life example: example.andersmurphy.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #537 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/537 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

#536: Fly inside FastAPI Cloud

You've built your FastAPI app, it's running great locally, and now you want to share it with the world. But then reality hits -- containers, load balancers, HTTPS certificates, cloud consoles with 200 options. What if deploying was just one command? That's exactly what Sebastian Ramirez and the FastAPI Cloud team are building. On this episode, I sit down with Sebastian, Patrick Arminio, Savannah Ostrowski, and Jonathan Ehwald to go inside FastAPI Cloud, explore what it means to build a "Pythonic" cloud, and dig into how this commercial venture is actually making FastAPI the open-source project stronger than ever. Episode sponsors Command Book Python in Production Talk Python Courses Links from the show Guests Sebastián Ramírez: github.com Savannah Ostrowski: github.com Patrick Arminio: github.com Jonathan Ehwald: github.com FastAPI labs: fastapilabs.com quickstart: fastapicloud.com an episode on diskcache: talkpython.fm Fastar: github.com FastAPI: The Documentary: www.youtube.com Tailwind CSS Situation: adams-morning-walk.transistor.fm FastAPI Job Meme: fastapi.meme Migrate an Existing Project: fastapicloud.com Join the waitlist: fastapicloud.com Talk Python CLI Talk Python CLI Announcement: talkpython.fm Talk Python CLI GitHub: github.com Command Book Download Command Book: commandbookapp.com Announcement post: mkennedy.codes Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #536 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/536 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy

#535: PyView: Real-time Python Web Apps

Building on the web is like working with the perfect clay. It’s malleable and can become almost anything. But too often, frameworks try to hide the web’s best parts away from us. Today, we’re looking at PyView, a project that brings the real-time power of Phoenix LiveView directly into the Python world. I'm joined by Larry Ogrodnek to dive into PyView. Episode sponsors Talk Python Courses Python in Production Links from the show Guest Larry Ogrodnek: hachyderm.io pyview.rocks: pyview.rocks Phoenix LiveView: github.com this section: pyview.rocks Core Concepts: pyview.rocks Socket and Context: pyview.rocks Event Handling: pyview.rocks LiveComponents: pyview.rocks Routing: pyview.rocks Templating: pyview.rocks HTML Templates: pyview.rocks T-String Templates: pyview.rocks File Uploads: pyview.rocks Streams: pyview.rocks Sessions & Authentication: pyview.rocks Single-File Apps: pyview.rocks starlette: starlette.dev wsproto: github.com apscheduler: github.com t-dom project: github.com Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com Episode #535 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/535 Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm Theme Song: Developer Rap 🥁 Served in a Flask 🎸: talkpython.fm/flasksong ---== Don't be a stranger ==--- YouTube: youtube.com/@talkpython Bluesky: @talkpython.fm Mastodon: @talkpython@fosstodon.org X.com: @talkpython Michael on Bluesky: @mkennedy.codes Michael on Mastodon: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Michael on X.com: @mkennedy