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Episode 168: A Guide for Using AI Agents in Media Analytics, with Newton Research’s John Hoctor

John Hoctor, CEO of Newton Research, joins Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi to break down how AI agents are reshaping marketing analytics. From automating complex workflows to enabling faster experimentation, the conversation explores what “agent-native” really means and how brands can move beyond basic AI usage. Takeaways AI agents act like junior data scientists, automating complex analytics workflows. Consistency and methodology matter more than raw AI capability in enterprise use. Most companies still underutilize their data despite having access to it. Incrementality testing becomes more scalable when automation removes setup friction. The future isn’t just AI tools—it’s structured, repeatable workflows built around them. Chapters 00:00 Intro & Guest (John Hoctor, Newton Research) 01:06 Ari’s CBS Sunday Morning Appearance 02:32 Podcast Updates & Website Move 04:06 What is Newton Research? 06:49 Early AI Agents & ReAct Framework 09:54 How the Agents Work (Architecture) 11:43 Training Agents Like Data Scientists 14:40 Workflows vs Prompting (Execution) 16:38 Incrementality & Automated Testing 19:07 Causal Models & Advanced Analytics 23:12 Advice for Marketers Using AI 28:03 News Segment Begins (TBP / OpenAI Deal) 34:59 Mediaocean + Agentic Buying Discussion 38:18 MiQ Growth & Publicis + Microsoft Deal 44:59 Meta AI, Claude Mythos & Closing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Publisher’s Guide to Thriving in the AI Era

Neil Vogel, Chief Executive Officer, People Inc., and Mark Stenberg, Senior Media Reporter, ADWEEK, share how modern publishers can survive and thrive amid declining search traffic and the rise of AI. From diversifying revenue streams to building durable brands, Neil breaks down the strategies that helped People Inc. achieve consistent growth despite industry disruption. Takeaways Strong brands are the most valuable asset in media today Relying on a single platform like Google is risky Diversification across platforms and revenue streams is essential Direct relationships with audiences and advertisers drive durability AI licensing is becoming a major revenue opportunity Media success requires constant adaptation, not entitlement Growth comes from scaling new channels while managing legacy ones Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the AI era challenges in publishing 01:52 The origin of People Inc.’s strategy and acquisitions 03:45 The “Google Zero” mindset and early adaptation 05:52 Shifting from search reliance to diversified channels 06:45 Balancing declining web traffic with new growth areas 08:38 Why constant change is normal in media 09:20 AI licensing deals and new revenue models 10:05 Types of AI content licensing agreements explained 12:14 Why publishers must demand fair compensation from AI 13:24 The challenge of negotiating with Google 15:48 Why only strong brands will survive long term 16:42 Focusing on top-performing brands in a portfolio 18:40 The limits of service-based publishing brands 20:06 The importance of diversification in audience and revenue 21:13 Final thoughts on building a resilient media business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 167: How Infillion Bought Catalina and How it Fits with MediaMath

Rob Emrich, Founder and Executive Chairman of Infillion, joins to talk about the Catalina acquisition, why retail data matters, and how his company is building a full-stack ad tech platform through acquisitions and integration. The conversation touches on DSP strategy, data advantages, and how the industry is shifting toward outcomes-driven advertising. Takeaways Catalina evolved from coupon printing into a powerful retail data asset SKU-level purchase data is a key differentiator in advertising Infillion’s strategy is to integrate data, media, and tech into one platform DSPs are increasingly defined by proprietary data and a unique supply Acquisition strategy matters more than just collecting assets Retail media is a continuation of older data-driven advertising models Financial vs strategic ownership can shape how companies evolve Chapters 00:00 Intro & Guest Tease 01:20 April Fool’s Day Banter 04:15 Guest Introduction Rob Emrich 05:36 Catalina Acquisition Explained 07:09 Evolution from Coupons to Data Business 09:06 SKU Level Data & Its Value 11:14 How the Deal Happened 13:46 Infilion Strategy DSP and Data 15:35 Rob’s Background & Company Origins 19:46 Acquisition Strategy 22:18 The Factory Model of Ad Tech 26:05 Customer Profile & Verticals 31:07 Amazon Ads Tops Forrester Wave 38:47 New DSP Tools & Market Expansion 44:27 OpenAI Massive Fundraise Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Parallel Infrastructure: Why Premium CTV Publishers Are Building Outside the Programmatic Stack

At Marketecture Live, Ari Paparo from Marketecture Media joins Philip Inghelbrecht, Co-Founder & CEO at Tatari, Bill Murray, Head of Growth and Performance at Warner Bros Discovery, and Michael Reidy, Senior Vice President, Ad Sales at NBCUniversal. They unpack how streaming inventory is bought and sold, the balance between programmatic and direct deals, and why premium inventory often sits outside traditional programmatic pipes. The discussion also explores live events, automation, and how new solutions like Tatari’s Upstream aim to reshape access to high-quality CTV inventory. Takeaways The U.S. TV ad market is ~$90B, with $60B still in linear and $30B in streaming Only about half of streaming inventory is programmatic, and much of the premium supply is sold directly Direct buying offers advantages like guaranteed inventory, brand safety, and fewer intermediary fees Programmatic excels in targeting, flexibility, and discovery of new audience opportunities Publishers view direct and programmatic as complementary, not competing channels Live events and moment-driven content create spikes that favor guaranteed direct deals Automation is reshaping direct buying, making premium inventory more accessible to smaller advertisers Tatari’s Upstream aims to automate direct deals and bypass traditional programmatic layers The future of CTV will likely be hybrid, combining automation, data, and direct relationships Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Marketecture Live discussion 00:21 Breaking down the $90B TV and CTV market 02:04 Overlap between direct and programmatic inventory 02:30 Publisher perspective on inventory strategy 04:03 Advertiser value targeting vs premium placement 05:03 Why direct and programmatic are complementary 06:07 Benefits of direct buying for brands 07:30 Brand safety, fraud, and cost efficiencies 08:40 The importance of publisher relationships 09:30 Live events and operational challenges 10:08 Peacock strategy and nowness content 11:35 Dynamic ad insertion vs linear pass-through 12:34 Audience behavior and shared viewing moments 13:14 Managing unpredictable live inventory 14:08 Introducing Tatari’s Upstream platform 15:40 Automation of direct deals 16:00 Concentration of CTV supply among top publishers 17:04 Lowering barriers for new advertisers 18:15 How Upstream benefits publishers and buyers 19:45 Future roadmap and machine learning optimization 22:07 Performance vs brand programmatic vs direct debate 22:33 Growth of CTV and advertiser adoption 23:12 The future coexistence of direct and programmatic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 166: Alicia Richardson, Winner of the Marketecture Start-up Showcase, on Experiential Marketing and Whether Cannes Is Worth it

Alicia Richardson, co-founder and managing partner of CrowdAxis and winner of the Markecture Live Startup Showcase, joins the pod to break down how brands approach experiential marketing, how to measure its impact, and whether major events like Cannes are actually worth the investment. Takeaways Experiential marketing connects brands directly with consumers in physical settings. Marketers often rely on gut and repeat past event choices. Measurement is inconsistent and still focused on basic metrics. The industry lacks a standardized way to evaluate performance. ROI depends on both the event and the brand’s execution. Delayed data limits post-event conversion opportunities. Chapters 00:09 Intro & Guest Introduction 03:33 What is Experiential Marketing 04:20 The Measurement Problem 07:11 CrowdAxis Solution 08:05 Experiential Power Index 10:08 Marketer Perspective 13:35 Data Sources 21:19 Founding Story of CrowdAxis 25:11 Paid Marketing Debate 43:22 Shopify Agentic Storefronts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices