The Changes Ahead Podcast

Cathy and Steven get Down to Earth

We are regularly asked about what we think about various things, including what changes ahead we see are necessary. Earlier this year, Cathy and Steven were interviewed on another podcast, Down To Earth Conversations. In case you didn't catch it over there, have a listen to some more of our story and our hopes for The Changes Ahead.

Would we be missed? A church elder’s reflections on capacity, community and the questions that keep us honest, with Nathan Nelson

We sit down with a church elder wrestling with big questions: How do we manage our capacity as churches and as individuals? Would our churches be missed if they disappeared? And how do we stay curious in a culture that values certainty? It’s a thoughtful, honest conversation about presence, purpose, and the quiet power of asking open-ended questions. Whether you’re leading, limping, or somewhere in between, this episode invites reflection on why we do what we do—and who would notice if we stopped.

The problem of accidental Zionism and how to know you have it, with Lauren Domigan and Philip Church

We are joined by the co-hosts of the popular Baptist NZ podcast ‘Biblical insights: The gospel and the land of the Bible’, who unpack their own journeys exploring the topic of Zionism. They discuss how a particular theological line of thinking and way of interpreting the Bible results in the justification of human suffering. In this challenging and personal conversation, they invite us to think beyond what might have been understood from the past to find God who “is on the side of suffering humanity.”

Place-based institutions and the future of the church, with Taylor Marston

How can the experience of place-based institutions such as Sister Cities and Rotary Clubs inform where the church is at in 2025? Taylor shares from his research and offers some challenging insights and questions for us as the church.

The art of disagreeing well, with Hazel Dunn

Treating people with respect and without judgment when we disagree might be one of the hardest things to do, especially in our increasingly polarised world, society and church. Using personal stories and giving practical tips, in this episode, Hazel guides us in the art of disagreeing well.