A Rock and A Hard Place

A Rock and A Hard Place

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Welcome to A Rock and A Hard Place, a podcast brought to you by Mineral Choices. In each episode, Dr Saleem Ali and Thomas Hale speak to experts about the integral but too often hidden role of minerals in our modern world. From complex communications infrastructure to next-generation clean energy solutions, minerals are the key to unlocking a brighter and sustainable future. However, supplying enough minerals to meet the world’s ever-increasing demand is a significant challenge. Stuck with a c...
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Episode List

Opportunities and Obstacles for Deep-Sea Mining

Jun 2nd, 2023 10:00 AM

Join me for part two of my conversation with Erika Ilves, Head of Strategy & Business Development at The Metals Company as we discuss some of the opportunities of deep-sea mining and the real challenges and obstacles still being dealt with politically, socially, and economically in the field.  Erika also provides some insights on how we can begin to engage in thoughtful discussions on where we source our metals and the immense challenges of a metal-intense energy future. With our options limited and timelines for net-zero and energy goals drawing closer, society will need to find answers to these global challenges surrounding mineral supply chains.

The Fundamentals of Deep-Sea Mining

May 19th, 2023 10:00 AM

Join me on this exciting episode as I speak with Erika Ilves, Head of Strategy & Business Development at The Metals Company, about the fundamentals behind deep-sea mining. We start out discussion off by learning about what deep-sea mining is and the diversity of mineral resources in the ocean. Erika informs viewers on the different types of metal resources found within these deposits and why TMC has decided to focus its efforts on deep-sea nodules. We also discuss the techniques and processes behind extracting nodules from the ocean floor. Erika also begins to discuss the opportunities and challenges that are presented with moving forward with deep-sea mining, busting some of the common myths often have about this type of mining. Most importantly, Erika emphasizes the increasing demand for metals necessary to support the energy transition and why TMC believes deep-sea mining provides a unique alternative to land-based mining operations. Be sure to check out part two next week as we dive deeper into the politics of deep-sea mining and the environmental discourse around the subject. 

Challenges in Artisanal and Small-Scale Mining

May 12th, 2023 9:00 AM

Join us for part 2 with Hugh Brown as we identify some of the common challenges in ASM he has observed throughout his travels. We also learn more about how his photography attempts to bring humanity to these important issues, rather than dismissing the reality of millions who depend on the sector to survive. Hugh also provides some commentary on the common ASM myths he often hears and tries to explain how the reality of these challenges are much more complex and difficult to address than simply removing our supply chains from these countries. 

The Power of Photography and Artisanal and Small-Scale Mining

Apr 28th, 2023 11:00 AM

Join us this week as we have Hugh Brown on the podcast, a best selling documentary photographer passionate about telling stories about the artisanal and small-scale mining sector. In this episode, we talk about the power of photography in telling stories about the people involved in this sector and how it is often the case that the images we see in the news and across the world focusing on ASM are typically used for political purposes rather than calls for action to reform and provide opportunity for the millions that depend on the sector.  Hugh also provides some of his personal thoughts on how ASM is discussed in politics and the political obstacles communities face when it comes to sourcing metals. While many calls to action have been made, Hugh provides a critical review of these western countries as his travels have shown a much more complex and concerning reality on the ground. Finally, Hugh provides some common myths about the ASM sector, which he hopes to bust and find ways to open up the public's imaginary around the way these communities can be empowered for a better future rather than negatively targeted for current labor practices. These issues are highly controversial, but Hugh brings in his wealth of travel experience and connection with local communities to try to cut through the rhetoric and really understand how his work can bring awareness of these communities and the true potential they possess in being a key part in the global energy transition. 

Mineral Education Organizations and Best Practices in Geo-Communication

Apr 7th, 2023 11:00 AM

Join us for another episode with Courtney Onstad, a PhD candidate at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, Canada. In this episode we discus some of the  best practices and methodologies that should be implemented in the geoscience communication space. Courtney also emphasizes the critical importance of early education and making good impressions with kids who may grow up to solve our future energy and mining challenges. We also discuss the role of mineral literacy organizations and their role in engaging with communities about their natural resources to emphasize why we mine and how it can be done sustainably through community involvement and monitoring. Finally, Courtney shares some thoughts about where the academic field of geoscience communication is headed next and the gaps which need to be filled by young professionals and thought leaders in the mineral and mining sphere. 

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