Why isn’t Morrissey more famous? Shouldn’t he be a ’national treasure’ by now?

Why isn’t Morrissey even more famous? It's widely agreed that he is a genius, so it’s not a lack of talent. In the UK we refer to a few people, such as David Attenborough and Alan Bennett, as "national treasures". Why doesn't Moz have that label yet?

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This time, hosts Chris and George speak to the well-known and well-respected journalist Brendan O’Neill, who writes for publications including the Spectator and Spiked, about cancel culture, the blocks that stop Moz’s rise to “national treasure” status in 2026, and how the singer’s public image could now be moving into a more positive place.

We have a new feature: ‘Morrissey and Wine Introduces’. Each episode we’ll have an exclusive performance from an up-and-coming musician who’s inspired by Moz and The Smiths. This time it’s Brody Londrigan, just 18 and from Arizona, who plays ‘Your Dreams Don’t Have To End’ from his new album ‘Isle Of Swine’. Check out his stuff with this link.

George’s grandma Nanny Val is back in the studio, this time giving her take on ‘The Monsters of Pig Alley’. The boys analyse the lyrics of ‘That’s How People Grow Up’ - and we do the ten-question trivia quiz.

Oh…and George has a new quiz theme song…so you better grab some cotton for your ears.

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